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re: Game of Thrones S8E5 "The Bells" is officially the worst reviewed GOT episode yet

Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:19 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:19 am to
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and then when it isn’t spelt out for them they moan about it.

bro, there is a huge gap between "ignoring character development over 7 seasons" / "creating shock conflict/actions out of nowhere" and "having everything spelled out for us"

everyone knew they were forcing Dany into the "mad queen" role. it's HOW they did it that is being criticized

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She literally said she would rule by love or fear and when John rejected her she said “fear it is”

That’s a pretty big fricking clue as to what is going to happen.

my point proven. fear and psychopathic holocaust are very different

like i said yesterday. the writers got her to a 3, maybe a 4/10 of crazy-angry, and then she snaps into a 25/10 in an instant without explanation
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 7:20 am
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:19 am to
Yup
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:28 am to
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the writers got her to a 3, maybe a 4/10 of crazy-angry


She once CRUCIFIED hundreds of people to prove a point

There are three main groups of fans bitching about her story: The angry “WOMAN POWERZ” group pissed she ended up being just another crazy bleeder dependent on men for validation, the book readers who are pissed the story isn’t ending like they wanted and/or pissed they don’t get to have “the drop” on “hodors” anymore and those with other, coherent reasons for not liking the story.

The overwhelming majority fall into the first two groups.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:32 am to
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She once CRUCIFIED hundreds of people to prove a point

and there was still a moral justification within that act

it wasn't psychopathic or without reason

again, 3-4 / 10 on the crazy-angry scale. not in the same universe as murdering a million innocent people for literally no reason

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The angry “WOMAN POWERZ” group pissed she ended up being just another crazy bleeder dependent on men for validation,

yes this board is flooded with feminists and Dany fans

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the book readers who are pissed the story isn’t ending like they wanted and/or pissed they don’t get to have “the drop” on “hodors” anymore

this is a meme much more applicable to 2013 than 2019

Posted by kciDAtaE
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:32 am to
This season sucks but last episode was great
Posted by MF Doom
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:33 am to
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the book readers who are pissed the story isn’t ending like they wanted


You retards keep repeating this as if the "mad queen" theory hasn't been a popular theory for a long time. Whatever makes you feel better for liking shite I guess
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:36 am to
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yes this board is flooded with feminists and Dany fans


Posted by RB10
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:37 am to
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She once CRUCIFIED hundreds of people to prove a point


I posted in another thread that she’d shown she has a cold nature towards death/killing throughout the show. It was always justified killing, but she was still remorseless.

It’s a pretty large leap from that level of “mad queen” to razing a city and burning women, children and soldiers alike.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 7:41 am
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:37 am to
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The angry “WOMAN POWERZ” group pissed she ended up being just another crazy bleeder dependent on men for validation


I honestly have no prob with Dany going nuts, I did feel it coming.

But if I had a dragon, I’d be tempted to torch your arse for that comment. I think Dany’s prob is far more due to her dna than to her being a woman.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 7:39 am
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:37 am to
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the story isn’t ending like they wanted


Seems like the majority are pissed that the writing to that ending is crap. It's okay that you don't have high standards though.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 7:39 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:38 am to
yeah it's a silly meme

after episode 3 basically everyone threw out all the theories b/c it was clear D/D were going for shock and ignoring the books

it's also funny how the biggest, most accepted gripe with 8 is how rushed it is and how D/D should have fleshed out these issues/conflicts more, and the justifications for Dany going mad are from like 4-5 seasons ago. so in addition to the lack of development into madness (but hey, we got that shock factor in spades!), Dany has a legitimate rollercoaster of development, where she starts going mad queen early into her reign, then gets better for years, and then snaps in literally 2 episodes
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:41 am to
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again, 3-4 / 10 on the crazy-angry scale. not in the same universe as murdering a million innocent people for literally no reason


It’s easily a 7 and it was further reinforced Barristan Selmy was begging her not to do it and crazy people do crazy things. She had been planning it during a time they showed her going over the edge.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:43 am to
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again, 3-4 / 10 on the crazy-angry scale




Whatever bro

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yes this board is flooded with feminists and Dany fans


May I direct you towards the place known as Twitter

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this is a meme much more applicable to 2013 than 2019


The melt from that crowd is as strong now as it was then. People like that received A LOT of personal worth from that.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:43 am to
This is why rotten tomatoes is stupid. Regardless of what you think of the story, that was objectively an incredible 90 minutes of TV. Funny that some of the people who hate how the story is wrapping up also complain about the show doing certain things just for “fan service.”
Posted by MF Doom
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:47 am to
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Funny that some of the people who hate how the story is wrapping up also complain about the show doing certain things just for “fan service.”


The hound has been pure, uncut fan service since his return and I liked it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:47 am to
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It’s easily a 7

based on what?

spell out what she did, prior to the Holoaust of King's Landing, that justified a 7. what did they show to display this?

there simply isn't evidence because they wanted shock value more than good writing and developing characters well
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:49 am to
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The melt from that crowd is as strong now as it was then.

because they appreciate ASOIAF and D/D are completely failing at the ending. it's justified and not based in "omg muh theoriez!"
Posted by CaptSpaulding
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:50 am to
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and there was still a moral justification within that act it wasn't psychopathic or without reason


Did you ever wonder if she would have done it even if there wasn’t a moral justification to make us all feel ok about liking her?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:54 am to
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to make us all feel ok about liking her?

i never liked Dany

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Did you ever wonder if she would have done it even if there wasn’t a moral justification

you have to give context to that quote

hell, iirc, the guy from Qarth basically said "yeah in your bra'
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 7:59 am to
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Jaime/Cersei scene


Ugh...gross!
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