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re: Game of Thrones S8E5 "The Bells" is officially the worst reviewed GOT episode yet

Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by CajunTiger_225
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:05 pm to
You must not be aware with how many people live in KL.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:05 pm to
Tyrion said there were at least a million people in KL and she burned the entire fricking city down
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:05 pm to
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As some point Dany is done trying to be loved and do the right thing when she can get what she wasn’t the easy way
Except she killed them all the moment she got what she wanted.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:06 pm to
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when she can get what she wasn’t the easy way.

she did get what she wanted (KL) the easy way (via her last dragon)
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:06 pm to
She got the throne.

But she hasn’t sent a strong enough message yet.

Winning the throne and ruling are different thinfs
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 3:08 pm
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:06 pm to
This is all Bran’s fault. If he hadn’t said anything KL would likely be not as destroyed because there’s no conspiring against Dany and Jon would still be unknowingly sleeping with his aunt.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:06 pm to
Because now she has hit the point of no return. It's her final decent into madness. This is her ultimate fall (and a pyrrhic victory for Cersei who wanted people to hate her) and her ultimate story resolution.

There have been tons of examples of her falling into madness and now she has fully gone to the dark side. This is like when Anakin kills the younglings. He didn't need to do it but he had gone fully crazy and did it anyway.

I'm not sure why you seem to think it was done too fast. When a person flips and goes crazy it's why you say they finally"snapped". She had people trying to keep her in check and but they were gone. There was too much anger for her to overcome and she fell to her darkest leanings b/c she is mad for power and will stop at nothing to get it. We've already seen her do horrible things so it was always in her nature to go full bore and murder innocents. I can think of at least 4 cities she already threatened to burn to the ground offhand. This is not a new idea for her.

Most people who commit a mass shooting NEVER did anything that stupid or crazy before. There are often warning signs they are a bit off and even dangerous but usually nobody puts it all together until it's far too late. This is no different.

This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 3:09 pm
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:06 pm to
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Tyrion said there were at least a million people in KL and she burned the entire fricking city dow


Didnt remember him saying that, but it's supposed to be about half that. I guess they played it up.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:06 pm to
I swear I think people are watching a different show. We know DD don’t watch their own show so we shouldn’t be surprised I guess.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:07 pm to
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Except she killed them all the moment she got what she wanted.


She already had it planned. She was going all Ender's Game before the battle with the mercy towards all future generations. She was already prepared to burn the city down to prevent all future questions to her claim.

Her fall basically happened in between episodes 4 & 5 and we didn't really even get to see it
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:07 pm to
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But she hasn’t sent a strong enough message yet.
The message that’s shes crazy?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:07 pm to
i think in the last episode he said that. the population was inflated b/c of all the refugees in the city
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:08 pm to
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they've been foreshadowing it for years. have they not? can we agree on that?


Anybody who can't agree on this is being willfully ignorant at this point.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:08 pm to
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She was already prepared to burn the city down to prevent all future questions to her claim.
Killing innocent people doesn’t prevent that. Killing Jon and all the Starks maybe.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:08 pm to
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This is all Bran’s fault. If he hadn’t said anything KL would likely be not as destroyed because there’s no conspiring against Dany and Jon would still be unknowingly sleeping with his aunt.


I'm still secretly hoping for Bran to be the big bad in some crazy reveal. At this point just frick it all
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:09 pm to
Yeah and that it would be fricking dumb to stand against her.

Same reason anyone who raises a city raises a city.

Tywin Lannister drowned everyone in Castamere and they wrote a song about it to remind people.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:10 pm to
The Starks are going to have a hard time finding people to fight a dragon.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:10 pm to
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Killing innocent people doesn’t prevent that. Killing Jon and all the Starks maybe.



Well I think she was going for such an atrocious show of power, that even those with a legitimate claim would never make it out of fear of what she would do to innocent people. It's not just Jon and the Starks. It's all future prospects.

It's the whole fighting a war to prevent all future wars. You do something so atrocious that nobody would dare question you again.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 3:12 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:12 pm to
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That was almost all done in half of two separate episodes. Get it now?
And her propensities were established over the course of multiple seasons. But is it surprising that the recent events leading up to a decision had a major impact on the decision?
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 3:14 pm to
You haven't been reading what I've been saying. I'm not surprised by her turn to complete madness. It's the way it played out that was stupid. Little moments where she see's people liking Jon. Jon turning her down in the bedroom. The fact that the dragon has to be killed so easily JUST so they can make Dany more depressed. BELLS? All this has been beaten to death. It's been poorly done this season. They've made her seem like a 5 year old. She's not even a good villain. She's a little kid. They fricked it up. She could have been a bad arse evil queen. Cersei was a better villain. It's just dumb writing dude.

And I'm not even mentioning the other shite that was poorly done.
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