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re: Game of Thrones S8E5 "The Bells" is officially the worst reviewed GOT episode yet

Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:43 pm to
Posted by MF Doom
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:43 pm to
Arya murders Walder Freys children and bakes them into pies



BADASS HERO
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:43 pm to
Sammy is literally the only person who has reached the point where he’s defending Dany’s actions by saying that she gave the people time to submit to her before she burned them all. That’s almost as bad as some of the SJW feminist tweets.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:43 pm to
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Crucify innocent nobles and commit war crimes against nobles

let's just take these as they are and assume the wrost

slaughtering a million+ innocent civilians is exponentially worse to the point where you'd need a thousand examples of those same "war crimes" to compare
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:44 pm to
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nobody seems to care about the bad stuff Jamie did. But because everybody loved his character arc and he had redeeming qualities, nobody cared.



100%. and people turned a blind eye to what dany did in the past because they were rooting for her.

go team go
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:44 pm to
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So, where exactly do we go from here to where she is slaughtering innocent civilians in a city that had nothing to do with the fighting, and had surrendered to her.



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Crucify innocent nobles and commit war crimes against nobles and nobody cares but she needs to kill a peasant for her turn to be believable
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:45 pm to
Arya = the Mad Assassin
Jon = the Mad Commander
Eddard = the Mad Warden of the North
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:45 pm to
No it’s Dany going off the rails which is the fricking point
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:46 pm to
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100%. and people turned a blind eye to what dany did in the past because they were rooting for her
But many are also mad that he didn't murder Cersei, who was you know, pregnant with his innocent unborn child.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:47 pm to
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But many are also mad that he didn't murder Cersei, who was you know, pregnant with his innocent unborn child.


No, many are mad because they actually wrote a very well done character arc for him, actually give him redemption for the terrible things he had done (which nobody ever turned a blind eye to). Then just abandoned it. It made it feel very cheap.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:47 pm to
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But many are also mad that he didn't murder Cersei, who was you know, pregnant with his innocent unborn child.



people just want to be mad is all I can gather. it's an entertaining TV show. I think some people are just miserable it seems like.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:47 pm to
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Arya murders Walder Freys children and bakes them into pies



BADASS HERO


I'll support it. Dont think id say hero but I was good with it.
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:47 pm to
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slaughtering a million+ innocent civilians is exponentially worse to the point where you'd need a thousand examples of those same "war crimes" to compare



You take someone who has demonstrated no problem committing cruel war crimes, add in that she’s withdrawn paranoid and experiencing a psychotic break and then have that person get placed on a dragon. Is it really outside the realm of possibility?
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:48 pm to
Juxtaposition. Nice.
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:48 pm to
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slaughtering a million+ innocent civilians is exponentially worse to the point where you'd need a thousand examples of those same "war crimes" to compare
But she was on the verge of it in season 6, and was only stopped because she trusted Tyrion's advice, and still tried to rationalize it as justifiable. And that slaughtering wouldn't have serve her ultimate goal, like this did, at least in her mind.
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:51 pm to
No, many are mad because they actually wrote a very well done character arc for him, actually give him redemption for the terrible things he had done (which nobody ever turned a blind eye to). Then just abandoned it. It made it feel very cheap.


So you are one of those. Only want the black and white warm and fuzzy ending. Just because Jamie went back to Cersei doesn’t nullify his development as a person. Sampson loved Delilah. The battered woman loves and goes back to the abuser. It happens
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:51 pm to
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that slaughtering wouldn't have serve her ultimate goal, like this did, at least in her mind.
And what exactly happened between then and now that would make her kill all of those innocent people after the war was won? The truth about Jon? Missandei’s death?
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:53 pm to
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And what exactly happened between then and now that would make her kill all of those innocent people after the war was won? The truth about Jon? Missandei’s death?


Exactly. It's like the writers had a 12 step program in mind, went through steps 1-4, ran out of time and skipped to step 11.

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:53 pm to
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No, many are mad because they actually wrote a very well done character arc for him, actually give him redemption for the terrible things he had done (which nobody ever turned a blind eye to). Then just abandoned it. It made it feel very cheap.




I actually liked it. Not how they died, but as far as the completion of his story. Im sure im in the minority in this and i would have been fine with him killing Cersei.

I just think he showed his true colors like Dany did. Not that it was a bad thing, but you found out that in the end, it really only was about him and Cersei.

The stupidity of him breaking out of camp is another thing, but I actually liked the way it ended. He knew she was evil, but he accepted he was evil too and only cared about what we originally thought he did. His sister. Good enough for me.
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:54 pm to
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The truth about Jon?
Yes.
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Missandei’s death?
And the death of two dragons, Jorah, and the betrayals (real and perceived) of those with the sense to stop her.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 2:55 pm to
That was almost all done in half of two separate episodes. Get it now?
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