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re: Game of Thrones S8 E2 "A Knight of Seven Kingdoms." Official Thread

Posted on 4/23/19 at 7:12 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 7:12 pm to
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Who kills the Night’s King?


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Jon
Posted by CaptSpaulding
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 7:13 pm to
Can’t argue with the fact that this episode was “slow.” It was. But, so what? I’d even say it needed to be.

Next week is most likely the last for some of the major players from S1E1, and giving us those moments and conversations most definitely means they are going to do next week right.

Most of us have spent close to a decade following this show (more of you read the books, which I never have). These next few weeks are the last time there will ever be any anticipation related to Game Of Thrones. Come next month, it’ll be another show that anyone can binge from start to finish. For the last time, appreciate the space between last Sunday and what’s to come next week. Come next month there won’t be any more weeklong threads where we bitch and fight over what some random line means, or what anyone will or won’t do. Enjoy it.

What is dead may never die.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 7:17 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 7:26 pm to
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Can’t argue with the fact that this episode was “slow.” It was. But, so what? I’d even say it needed to be.


Yes, to people dissing this episode, I implore you to go rewatch the Two Towers and Return of the King. Think of this like an 8 hour movie. Yes, our characters deserve a bit downtime to contemplate their fate and how they got there. Lord of the Rings did this magnificently on two maybe three occasions. It’s clearly what the writers were going for and I think they pulled it off.

If anything I’m slightly disappointed that the Hound and Sansa didn’t get some time together (not really a complaint, but about as close as I’ve got to one in this episode). It makes sense this is how these characters would react to their inevitable deaths by ice zombies. We’re getting the battle this week and the writers were right to delay it until Episode 3.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:25 pm to
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Drogon: Dragon’s fire might work. If fighting Jon when it happens might verify Jon lineage to Dany.


I hadn't thought of that, but I could see that. If, say Rhegal, was around, Jon could even call "Dracarys," while he is in close combat with the NK, pretty much accepting that he was sacrificing himself to rid the world of the NK. But when the flames subsided, Jon would be standing there over the ashes that are what's left of the NK.
Posted by BigOrangeVols
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:34 pm to
The only thing is we’ve seen the NK walk through/extinguish flames. Granted who knows how he’d react to dragon fire but there’s a possibility that it won’t kill him.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:05 pm to
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But when the flames subsided, Jon would be standing there naked over the ashes that are what's left of the NK.


Jon isn’t fireproof. He was burned throwing the lantern in s1. He will die.

Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:48 pm to
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Theon and Sansa... feeelssssss



Posted by cssamerican
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:10 pm to
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Jon isn’t fireproof. He was burned throwing the lantern in s1. He will die.

Was Dany fireproof before her interaction with Dragons? Or was that magic awoken in her when she touched the eggs?
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
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Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:12 pm to
They had that bath tub scene with the scalding hot water.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 9:14 am to
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Jon isn’t fireproof. He was burned throwing the lantern in s1. He will die.



If I was Dany, I would have immediately tried to burn Jon after he told me he was my nephew
Posted by 615tider
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:03 am to
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If I was Dany, I would have immediately tried to burn Jon after he told me he was my nephew


Well Dany's brother was a true Targaryen and that melted gold did the trick.

Total side note on this issue:

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Missandei: All of us who came with her from Essos, we believe in her. She’s not our queen because she’s the daughter of some king we never knew. She’s the queen we chose.


Jon could have the better claim to the throne but Dany's armies would almost certainly continue to back her. I don't think Jon would want the throne anyways unless it was the only way to unite the country.
Posted by beerJeep
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Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:06 am to
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Who kills the Night’s King?


No one. The night king wins.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:24 am to
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Well Dany's brother was a true Targaryen and that melted gold did the trick.


I think even Dany would have died with that.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:51 am to
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Missandei: All of us who came with her from Essos, we believe in her. She’s not our queen because she’s the daughter of some king we never knew. She’s the queen we chose.



Jon could have the better claim to the throne but Dany's armies would almost certainly continue to back her.
That's frankly the bigger issue, that and the fact that Jon agrees in principle with that reasoning.

So Jon technically is the heir, he's been the guy saying titles don't mean a thing all series long. Does it suddenly change when he's the beneficiary... I don't think it's in his character to do that.

And Dany's people follow her because they love her as a wise and benevolent ruler who has freed and protected them. That's what drew Varys and Tyrion to her cause, her actions as ruler of Meereen to that point.
Of all the characters that WANT the job, Dany is the best. Jon has a claim, but he doesn't even want the job.
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:57 am to
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he doesn't even want the job.



Hell, I don't think he's even gonna want the name.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 11:42 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:00 am to
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So Jon technically is the heir, he's been the guy saying titles don't mean a thing all series long. Does it suddenly change when he's the beneficiary... I don't think it's in his character to do that.



Wouldnt surprise me if it remains a secret just between 4 people.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:08 am to
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Hell, I don't think he's even gonna want then name.



It's not even his name. Aegon Targaryen, the Sixth of his Name, was his older brother that got killed by the Mountain.

He is Aegon Targaryen, the Seventh of his Name.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:28 am to
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And the scouring of the Shire—brilliant piece of work, which I didn’t understand when I was 13 years old: “Why is this here? The story’s over?” But every time I read it I understand the brilliance of that segment more and more. All I can say is that’s the kind of tone I will be aiming for. Whether I achieve it or not, that will be up to people like you and my readers to judge.



Good catch.
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:30 am to
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Can’t argue with the fact that this episode was “slow.” It was. But, so what? I’d even say it needed to be.



I’d bet this was a budgetary issue with the show. Think “The Fly” episode of “Breaking Bad”. They had blown a large chunk of the show’s season budget building the meth superlab, so they needed a lower budget “character development” episode to balance that out.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 11:46 am to
There are numerous Aegons in the Targ dynasty but only the ones who ascend to the crown are numbered so Aegon is just his name unless he’s crowned. For example Dany was named after another Daenerys in her ancestry but would rule as Daenerys the First because the other was just a princess.
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