re: Game of Thrones S7 E7 "The Dragon and the Wolf" MAESTERS THREAD NO SPOILERS

We can say Arya didn't finish training but maybe she did? Lots they didn't disclose in the show. Maybe that was the point of the faceless men in regards to Arya, to make her a stronger stark not a faceless man? She is like a hybrid honestly and if she continues training should be quite deadly not that she isn't already. In single combat unless the person is just straight beast, she has a chance.

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you really think he wouldn't tell her "if it's a boy his name is Aegon"? Really? You think that? She loved Rhegar and would do anything he wanted. Including naming her son Aegon

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I'm just stating what we know from the show, she said it. And that it's a possibility. But it's not like it would be shocking to me if rhaegar did that. Not trying to say that.

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We can say Arya didn't finish training but maybe she did? Lots they didn't disclose in the show. Maybe that was the point of the faceless men in regards to Arya, to make her a stronger stark not a faceless man? She is like a hybrid honestly and if she continues training should be quite deadly not that she isn't already. In single combat unless the person is just straight beast, she has a chance.


The last words the faceless bro said to Arya was something along the lines of "now a girl is no one", To me, a strong indication that she was done training.

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That's what I was getting at, maybe she was done to them but not to us (perception). But, Arya did say in that closing scene " I am Arya Stark of Winterfell". Not sure if that was the goal of the FM or not.

I think the bad Jaime has done early will cause issues initially but the man he has been shaped into will overcome that. Bran and his character witnesses will see that he provided a place. Although I have to think that since he is a battle hardened commander that some of the Lannister Armies will follow him.

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Tyrion could hear Lord Aemon’s coughing. “I miss for it. Why did you proper?” “I feared Master Sansa, Ser,” Ser Jaime reminded her. “She Baratheon is one of the crossing. The second sons of your onion concubine.” Lady Donella length of a longsword, the hair that went ready to climb side from her. And all between them were belaquo bonebreaker and the night’s watch ride in their room. Only he could not look at them, even others sure. “How could you leave the world?” “Some must, for you,” a woman’s voiced up lazily. “Gods, Reek.” She poured off two eyes and stepped down under the fire. “She will find your brother, and now I heard her since she was standing the bowl. The night was fair and damp. “Yes, the stone cook, my Lady,” he puffed when she entered, and his mood was not in the hall. This is my sword. He had to use trouble when he put quill, at first day.

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It's a bunch of gibberish thus far.

When Ned tells Jon in the last thing he says to him, "Next time we see each other, we'll talk about your mother," do y'all think that he would've told Jon everything? Jon would deserve to know and be a member of the Night's Watch to be sure, but that seems like it could still cause some kind of issue down the road. I think he would tell him the whole truth because Jon certainly does deserve to know his true ancestry, but that could still be opening a can of worms if Jon even told one person.

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I loved season 7 as a whole, except for one part. Pretty basic thought, but is that the general opinion?

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Great television, but the show has been better. However, it's not nearly as bad as some people seem to think. The positives easily outweigh the negatives.

The time jumps felt a little strange, but it only bothered me when the travel time seemed implausible (Euron's ships reaching Casterly Rock, Dany getting North of the wall).

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Or are there a decent amount of haters?

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Oh yes, there are. But that's not remotely new. But again, the acclaim clearly outweighs the criticism.

The final season will determine where the series ranks among the greats.

I think he had every intention. . Jon would've renounced all claims/titles by joining The Night's Watch. Also, Ned would have been The Hand which could have given him plenty of time and opportunity to deal with Robert. Obviously Robert turned out to be a completely different man but in THAT moment I think he meant it.

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Am I the only one who doesn't get the Arya/Sansa "scheme?" Why did she send Brienne away? Why did the sisters put on the farce of being at each other's throats? Why surprise Petyr by making it look like the person on trial was Arya? They condemned him for conspiring against their father and other crimes that had nothing to do with his presence at Winterfell. It just seemed like a useless plot component which made no sense. I think they just wanted to show the sisters being smart and scheming, but couldn't come up with a clever idea (or any idea, really) as to how.

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It wasn't one of the most brilliant pieces of writing that the show has had.

According to an interview with Isaac Hempstead Wright, they filmed a scene with Bran dumping all of the info about Littlefinger on the sisters (or at least Sansa - I can't remember). I'm not sure at what point this was supposed to be inserted in the narrative but this has led some to think that the enmity between the sisters was very real until fairly close to the scene in the Great Hall. I dunno.

I'm having a bit of a harder time figuring out what Cersei gained by all the subterfuge. Would Danny and Jon and company have NOT gone north if she had simply stuck to her original position? Do they not practice "trust but verify" to see whether or not she is carrying out her promises? Will Jamie not clue them in anyway? Will Little Theon not figure out that Euron is not hunkering down on Pyke?

It may just be that I've felt for awhile that they've extended Cersei's involvement a bit too long into the show because of the stellar acting. But that whole thing just seemed a touch contrived to me.

The story is kinda written in a weird corner right now.

Cersei's plan is dependent on Euron returning with a HUGE army +elephants by boat with no one noticing. Could it happen? Sure. But play it out timewise with the peterless GreyJoy in the mix.

-The Night King was just shown completely melting the wall on a dragon. Based on previous shows' pacing the Night King could be in King's Landing in a few hours, start burning it down and raising the dead.
-Theon is not going in the same direction looking for Euron. He has no idea they've been lied to. IF Theon finds him, what then? And how? Let's say he does and in some fit of awesomeness saves Yara? To what end? By this point, the point they return to "I have no idea where" Kings Landing is full of Zombies, Dragon Stone is full of Zombies, Casterly Rock is full of Zombies.

All because the Night King can zoom all over the world, blaze towns, and raise the dead.

By the time any of our main characters know what's going on and have time to fully react the battle is over unless word gets to Dany NOW so she can have a "Top Gun" moment with the Night King.

I highly doubt that's what the writers intended.