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Can anyone enjoy anything anymore? TLJ was great

Posted on 12/22/17 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 3:30 pm
Been avoiding this board purposefully as it's been full on melt to form my own opinion. Very enjoyable and entertaining. I don't get any of the SJW angles anyone is coming up with at all. I had a feeling everyone was overreacting and looks like I was right. The dynamic between Rey and Kylo going forward will be great and will be a good springboard into IX and beyond.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 3:32 pm to
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I don't get any of the SJW angles anyone is coming up with at all.


Stopped reading here. You're blind as a bat.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 3:37 pm to
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I don't get any of the SJW angles anyone is coming up with at all.


Take off the blindfold and earplugs next time.
Posted by Centinel
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 3:38 pm to
The evil First Order is conveniently made up of a bunch of white dudes.

The good guys are a picture of diversity.

I'm sure that's totes a coincidence though.
Posted by JinFL
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Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 3:41 pm to
Not sure about great, but was definitely not as bad as the MTB makes it out to be.
This post was edited on 12/24/17 at 8:19 am
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 3:42 pm to
Phasma is a white woman

I don't know if Snoke was a white dude or not

But obviously the Empire and First Order are based off of the Nazis
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 3:42 pm to
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The evil First Order is conveniently made up of a bunch of white dudes.

The good guys are a picture of diversity.

I'm sure that's totes a coincidence though.

You could say the same thing about the OT and Prequels. They are just much more heavy handed with it in TLJ.
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 3:46 pm to
Technically, women are the majority.

Just saying.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 3:47 pm to
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Phasma is a white woman


Who you barely see without armor on. And who has little screen time.

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I don't know if Snoke was a white dude or not


Well he's definitely not a spunky asian woman now is he?

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But obviously the Empire and First Order are based off of the Nazis


And? Are you suggesting only white males can have nazi tendencies?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65349 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:00 pm to
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Not sure about great, but was definitely not as bad as the MSB makes it out to be.

Only if you're expecting the worst film ever made.

Don't worry. As the years roll by, it will fester and sink in more. Unless you don't care and just like explosions and robot movies and shite like that. If so, I sort of envy you.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:02 pm to
Everyone in the resistance was white except Rose and Finn, but ok lets keep the non-existent agenda goinf
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:04 pm to
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The evil First Order is conveniently made up of a bunch of white dudes.

The good guys are a picture of diversity.

I'm sure that's totes a coincidence though.


And you completely forgot all of the GIRL POWER! moments spread out throughout the movie.


Bunch of female heroes all over, and stupid regretful males bowing down to the females.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:04 pm to
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I don't get any of the SJW angles anyone is coming up with at all.



1. Every evil person with speaking parts was cast as a caucasian male, with the exception of Phasma, who btw was also caucasian. NO EVIL DIVERSITY.

2. It's apparently ok for women (Leia) to slap males (Poe) in the face. Imagine the feminist outrage & boycott if Poe hit a woman!

3. Every human Resistance leader was female. Ackbar was the only male, albeit alien, and he was killed off unceremoniously.

4. Poe was depicted as headstrong & incompetent for trying something else to avoid defenseless transportees from getting killed, which ironically is what the "smart" female leaders eventually accomplished. Still, Poe is tainted as mutinous ineffective alpha male and the females are heroic.

5. Pushing PETA-like animal abuse sentiment over enslaved OTB animals (not real ones; CGI'd ones) that they needed to be freed, yet the writers were so busy adding in this irrelevant agenda, they left the kids enslaved.

6. The two self-sacrifices were by two women (asian pilot & Laura Dern) which was depicted as selfless and courageous. Meanwhile Ackbar goes out on a whimper.

7. Two other minority self-suicides were avoided when smart female Rose sacrifices herself (but survives) to save the pointlessly suicidal dumb male Finn.

8. Anti-capitalism/anti-wealth snark depicting the rich people only as war-profiteers, who were literally called "One percenters" in the movie.

9. Luke was the only caucasian male on the Resistance (Poe hispanic, Finn black) and Luke was killed off due to too much astral projection, maenwhile female Leia, who was half-dead in space, saves herself.


Anti-caucasian, anti-male, anti-wealth, anti-capitalism, pro-feminism, pro-diversity, pro-animal-rights are common SJW themes that were intentionally added & approved by the writers, directors & producers. In the prequels & the orginal trilogy had Princesses and male human generals as leaders of the Resistance. In Kathleen Kennedy's SW world, not only are the Resistance leaders female, but so is the lead.

Kind of deaf-tone representation when 67% of the paying audience was male and 62% were caucasian. Representation is the name of the game, amiright? Diversity just means inclusion by exclusion.
Posted by TROLA
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Member since Apr 2004
14741 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:07 pm to
It's not so much agenda but the lack of a coherent balance between where this is going and where it's been.. It's a fricking trilogy that didn't move the main protagonist forward in her development.. At this point, I'm rooting for Ren to rule the damn galaxy
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64356 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:10 pm to
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Everyone in the resistance was white except Rose and Finn, but ok lets keep the non-existent agenda goinf


Oh yeah, couldn't help but notice the fish and pig people white males. All over the place!


You suck at paying attention.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 4:26 pm to
So... We're talking syntax over different species vs Caucasian? This is ridiculous
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39853 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:02 pm to
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1. Every evil person with speaking parts was cast as a caucasian male, with the exception of Phasma, who btw was also caucasian. NO EVIL DIVERSITY.

2. It's apparently ok for women (Leia) to slap males (Poe) in the face. Imagine the feminist outrage & boycott if Poe hit a woman!

3. Every human Resistance leader was female. Ackbar was the only male, albeit alien, and he was killed off unceremoniously.

4. Poe was depicted as headstrong & incompetent for trying something else to avoid defenseless transportees from getting killed, which ironically is what the "smart" female leaders eventually accomplished. Still, Poe is tainted as mutinous ineffective alpha male and the females are heroic.

5. Pushing PETA-like animal abuse sentiment over enslaved OTB animals (not real ones; CGI'd ones) that they needed to be freed, yet the writers were so busy adding in this irrelevant agenda, they left the kids enslaved.

6. The two self-sacrifices were by two women (asian pilot & Laura Dern) which was depicted as selfless and courageous. Meanwhile Ackbar goes out on a whimper.

7. Two other minority self-suicides were avoided when smart female Rose sacrifices herself (but survives) to save the pointlessly suicidal dumb male Finn.

8. Anti-capitalism/anti-wealth snark depicting the rich people only as war-profiteers, who were literally called "One percenters" in the movie.

9. Luke was the only caucasian male on the Resistance (Poe hispanic, Finn black) and Luke was killed off due to too much astral projection, maenwhile female Leia, who was half-dead in space, saves herself.
You'll be fine.
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Anti-caucasian
Nope.
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anti-male
Were the earlier movies anti-female?
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anti-wealth, anti-capitalism
Nah. Anti war-profiteering.
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pro-diversity
Oh no!
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39853 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:03 pm to
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So... We're talking syntax over different species vs Caucasian? This is ridiculous
Yeah. Don't you remember the big light saber fight in the Caucasus region of the galaxy that definitely exists?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39853 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:04 pm to
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The evil First Order is conveniently made up of a bunch of white dudes.
What was the empire made up of in, say, Episode IV?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:05 pm to
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Big Scrub TX


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