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re: Can anyone enjoy anything anymore? TLJ was great
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:07 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:07 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
What was the empire made up of in, say, Episode IV?
What was the rebellion made up of in, say, Episode IV?
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:08 pm to RollTide1987
quote:So, your point is that all movements retain throughout time an unchangeable demographic and/or if they DO change, they must change in lockstep together with no future deviations? Interesting theory.
What was the rebellion made up of in, say, Episode IV?
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:09 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Not sure what your point is. The rebellion is clearly quite diverse (it's always been way more diverse than the Empire.) I can't imagine being butthurt about such a thing. 400 years of white-male-only has been COMPLETELY DERAILED by a mediocre sci fi movie! onoz
OMLandshark
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:10 pm to Big Scrub TX
You are reading way too much into it. I was simply saying that both the Empire and the Rebellion were made up of a bunch of white dudes in Episode IV. The same thing held true in Episode V and Episode VI. The only difference was the Empire characters were played by Brits, while the rebel characters were played by Americans.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:14 pm to RollTide1987
quote:
What was the rebellion made up of in, say, Episode IV?
The rebellion has always been more diverse than the Empire, its just more obvious now
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:15 pm to Cap Crunch
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The rebellion has always been more diverse than the Empire, its just more obvious now
Lol, we never even saw the faces of empire soldiers.
Are storm troopers a race now?
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:17 pm to tiggerthetooth
What about all of the higher ups, like Grand Moff Tarkin and all of the other Admirals that Darth Vader force chokes?
Its no different now with characters like Kylo and Hux.
Its no different now with characters like Kylo and Hux.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:20 pm to RollTide1987
quote:This is and isn't true. The rebellion always had tons of other "races" like Ackbar...and in leadership (admiral) positions. I don't recall that being true of the Empire. Now, it's potentially a fair point that someone else just made that we don't really know what the stormtroopers were...and the first one that was ever revealed was black. But in terms of unmasked members of either side, the rebels were always clearly and undebatably more diverse. Is there even an Empire analogue of Yoda?
I was simply saying that both the Empire and the Rebellion were made up of a bunch of white dudes in Episode IV.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:21 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
quote:Name one current member of the rebellion who is a white male. Name one current member of the First Order who isn't a white male.
Everyone in the resistance was white except Rose and Finn, but ok lets keep the non-existent agenda goinf
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:22 pm to blueboy
quote:Excellent goalpost shifting!
Name one current member of the rebellion who is a white male. Name one current member of the First Order who isn't a white male.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:24 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
The movie was just a mess, nothing to do with SJW angles. It had some really good moments and really, really bad moments, so that makes it suck overall.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:24 pm to Big Scrub TX
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The rebellion always had tons of other "races" like Ackbar...and in leadership (admiral) positions.
We didn't see those characters until Return of the Jedi. And yeah, there were definitely more "races" of alien involved with the Rebellion in the OT, but the prequels made it clear that there were diverse alien groups lining up behind Darth Sidious as well.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:27 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
quote:This.
The movie was just a mess, nothing to do with SJW angles. It had some really good moments and really, really bad moments, so that makes it suck overall.
The movie was a convoluted mess.
Disregard all of the things people are calling SJW virtue signaling.
The movie itself just isn’t good.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:29 pm to RollTide1987
quote:I don't remember enough detail about the prequels, but presumably you are referring to, e.g., the Japanese blockaders in Episode 1? That's a fair point, although this thread seems more about actual members of the respective hierarchies and not just purely financial players or other hangers on.
but the prequels made it clear that there were diverse alien groups lining up behind Darth Sidious as well.
quote:We saw Yoda in V (i.e. a clear "other" viewed as essentially one of the great gurus of the movement.)
We didn't see those characters until Return of the Jedi
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:31 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
I don't remember enough detail about the prequels, but presumably you are referring to, e.g., the Japanese blockaders in Episode 1? That's a fair point, although this thread seems more about actual members of the respective hierarchies and not just purely financial players or other hangers on.
There are a couple of other alien henchmen, but they don't really do anything. The Emperor has Annakin kill all of the trade federation in ROTS anyway.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:31 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
We saw Yoda in V (i.e. a clear "other" viewed as essentially one of the great gurus of the movement.)
Don't forget Chewbaccha and Lando
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:32 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
quote:You were blessed with a very simple mind.
I don't get any of the SJW angles anyone is coming up with at all.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 5:33 pm to Cap Crunch
quote:I'm OK leaving him out since Han was such a reluctant participant.
Don't forget Chewbaccha
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:11 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
This board is melting so hard I saw people come out praising the movie and the same few posters said: "everyone likes it when they first come out, give it a few days and you will hate it"
This is a real quote. They can't let go
This is a real quote. They can't let go
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:12 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
Excellent goalpost shifting!
Nope. It's a valid question. Why can't you answer it?
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