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re: Why was deandre ayton, Ben Simmons, and Markelle fultz top draft picks?
Posted on 6/20/21 at 11:30 pm to TackySweater
Posted on 6/20/21 at 11:30 pm to TackySweater
quote:somewhere around 7-10
Ok. Where would you have fathered he get picked in this draft? Like wtf
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Posted on 6/20/21 at 11:31 pm to CovingtonTigre
quote:maybe transcendent was a strong word but he should be a 25+ point a night guy reagardless of position by year 3 as a no.1 overall guy.
In a sport with only 5 starting players, you think every #1 overall pick should be “transcendent”?
How are you defining Transcendent, because based on how you are using it, I don’t think you know what that word means.
Posted on 6/20/21 at 11:33 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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he’s been solid but he’s at best the third option on his team. He’s a number one overall pick and he’s nothing like Anthony edwards or Zion. He should be way better than he is
Uou realize not every draft has zion or edwards, right?
Posted on 6/20/21 at 11:47 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Ok. A team maybe overvalued a player and thought he was better than you think he was.
Or they liked his fit for their team which you disagree with.
They just won their first game in the WCF with him. So it’s working for them.
What team are you GMing?
These hindsight restarts are so stupid.
Or they liked his fit for their team which you disagree with.
They just won their first game in the WCF with him. So it’s working for them.
What team are you GMing?
These hindsight restarts are so stupid.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 1:27 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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maybe transcendent was a strong word but he should be a 25+ point a night guy reagardless of position by year 3 as a no.1 overall guy.
If Ayton played for the Pistons he’d be averaging 25 a night.
When you play for better teams, you’re not going to get as many looks, and that is a good thing.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 7:08 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
So basically your question is why don’t scouts nail the draft perfectly every year?
Is that really your question?
Is that really your question?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 7:16 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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And were never even the best players their seasons in college
Who was better than Simmons during his one season at LSU?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 8:16 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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luka and trae both selected after ayton. Michael porter has been solid as well. Some other talent but nothing groundbreaking.
Do you watch the NBA?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 8:31 am to St Jean The Baptiste
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Ben Simmons sucks.
I’ve been saying that for years.
So you have been continually been dumb for years?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:00 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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maybe transcendent was a strong word but he should be a 25+ point a night guy reagardless of position by year 3 as a no.1 overall guy.
uh, without CP3, he'd be over 20ppg
he sacrificed individual stats this year to make the team better
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:01 am to Dawgsontop34
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If Ayton played for the Pistons he’d be averaging 25 a night.
When you play for better teams, you’re not going to get as many looks, and that is a good thing.
thank you
he was trending to be over 20ppg this year but the CP3 acquisition changed their offense and he took a smaller role on offense and a bigger role on defense
if he was on a shitty team, he'd be putting up crazy stats
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:02 am to bluebarracuda
No he hasn’t…. Simmons has been a no show in clutch time way back in his LSU days….. he thinks he can get away with being an assist guy and get garbage baskets…. He’s basically terrible.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:09 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
Didn’t Ayton’s AAU tram have a losing record?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:39 pm to kciDAtaE
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Who was better than Simmons during his one season at LSU?
Jamal Murray
sabonis
brown
ingram
it was a reasonable expectation Simmons would learn jumper form.
he dated a Kardashian instead.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:52 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
There isn’t a Zion in every draft.
Even with him having a full mental breakdown in the playoff there are maybe 2 players you could argue should have gone #1 over Simmons that year
Jaylen Brown and Brandon Ingram.
Ingram hasn’t been to the playoffs to melt down and Brown is just now starting to look like an all star in the past couple years.
Foltz was a bad pick.
Even with him having a full mental breakdown in the playoff there are maybe 2 players you could argue should have gone #1 over Simmons that year
Jaylen Brown and Brandon Ingram.
Ingram hasn’t been to the playoffs to melt down and Brown is just now starting to look like an all star in the past couple years.
Foltz was a bad pick.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:18 pm to SammyTiger
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Foltz was a bad pick.
Fultz also had a complete mental yip and decided to change his shooting motion.
He became a different player than the guy they drafted.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:20 pm to Dawgsontop34
yeah i mean Fultz is still a playable guy in the NBA with his issues. imagine what he'd be with a legit outside shot/FT shooting
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:27 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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They were just overhyped out of high school And were never even the best players their seasons in college. And now none of them are game changers in the nba. Whereas luka, booker, jokic were all mostly over looked. Yeah I know luka was still a lottery but he didn’t have any of the hype those other guys did. When will teams and GMs learn not to trust the ESPN hype train?
You may want to take a look at where Simmons ranks among others in his draft class in pretty much every stat. Hint: he's at the top or near the top.
He is a really, really good player. He just can't shoot and has a mental block on it now.
quote:.
For those arguing the 76ers should NOT have taken Ben Simmons 1st in 2016 Draft:
He ranks #1 in his class for: Win Shares, BPM and VORP. He leads the entire class in assists per game by a full 3 assists.
He ranks #2 in rebounds & #4 in points.
cont'd
Chad Ford
@chadfordinsider
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57m
Simmons is a 3 time NBA All-Star, 2 time 1st Team All-Defensive team, 1 time 3rd Team All-NBA.
He is not a scrub … the only two players in his draft class to even come close are Jamal Murray & Domantas Sabonis.
Neither was a candidate for the No. 1 pick in 2016
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:17 pm to bluebarracuda
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So you have been continually been dumb for years?
Why would you dickride for this guy?
He had one good game at LSU and it was against North Florida, and he shot the ball a total of four times in the fourth quarter in the entire series against Atlanta, and he shot 34 percent from the line.
The dude sucks.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 6:25 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
After what Ben Simmons pulled from the second half of the LSU/Oklahoma game in 2016 and throughout the remainder of his one and done, he should have been blacklisted and relegated to the bench in the Israeli league.
I think Shaq was too late in saying he would have beat his arse. Shaq should have shown up when he was at LSU and set that boy straight. An assbeat by Shaq would be good for the young man.
I think Shaq was too late in saying he would have beat his arse. Shaq should have shown up when he was at LSU and set that boy straight. An assbeat by Shaq would be good for the young man.
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