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re: New rule incoming (pitt qb fake slide)
Posted on 12/6/21 at 5:25 pm to landrywasbeast30
Posted on 12/6/21 at 5:25 pm to landrywasbeast30
The what is the other option other then pulling up? Inform me smart guy.
Either you hit him while sliding (15 yard penalty and possibly ejected or pull up ad get juked or run over.
It was a bitch move the qb did it not a rb or wr that is why the db's pulled up.
Either you hit him while sliding (15 yard penalty and possibly ejected or pull up ad get juked or run over.
It was a bitch move the qb did it not a rb or wr that is why the db's pulled up.
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 5:47 pm to wildtigercat93
15 yards when your both springing at each-other is an pretty short distance.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 5:51 pm to Pedro
quote:It’s a very clear sign that the game has gotten too damn soft. It’s a contact sport for crying out loud.
I mean hats off to him for thinking of that
Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:00 pm to GeauxD7
Don't know the situation, but I think a QB should be treated the same as a RB once he crosses the LOS. This sh*t started back when Steve Young took over at SF. He'd run for 30 yards then slide. Just not fair to the defensive players. They used to be able to punish a QB for running. Now they have to get out of his way.
ETA. Watched the video. Football is nothing like it used to be. If a QB can punish the defense by running for big gains, they should have the opportunity to knock him out of the game. If he's a good passer, you might as well do the same. That's how the game used to be played.
One year, around 2005-2008, LSU's defense knocked the starting QB out of the first three games of the season. Pretty sure it was the 2007 BCS championship team, because I remember true freshman, Tyrod Taylor, had to play most of the VaTech game.
I understand they can't play that way anymore, even though we let MMA folks & boxers still beat the hell out of each other.
The play should have been whistled dead, or at least brought back to that point on the field, after the officials huddled, or watched a replay.
ETA. Watched the video. Football is nothing like it used to be. If a QB can punish the defense by running for big gains, they should have the opportunity to knock him out of the game. If he's a good passer, you might as well do the same. That's how the game used to be played.
One year, around 2005-2008, LSU's defense knocked the starting QB out of the first three games of the season. Pretty sure it was the 2007 BCS championship team, because I remember true freshman, Tyrod Taylor, had to play most of the VaTech game.
I understand they can't play that way anymore, even though we let MMA folks & boxers still beat the hell out of each other.
The play should have been whistled dead, or at least brought back to that point on the field, after the officials huddled, or watched a replay.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:04 pm to ManBearTiger
quote:Another terrible comparison
Should the officials stop the clock on a fake spike as well?
Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:10 pm to Basura Blanco
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The easiest way to erase all doubt is to eliminate the sliding rule altogether. No player in college football should be awarded special status once they become a ball carrier.
Totally agree. The QB wears a jersey and a helmet, he should be fair game just like anyone else
Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:12 pm to wildtigercat93
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This one specially feels like a bad one to try to change the rules for. Defenders went flat footed from 15 yards away. It’s not like he put them in a position where they had to try to avoid contact in anyway
It was just a frickin terrible defensive play
It was just a frickin terrible take.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:43 pm to landrywasbeast30
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The problem with y’all stupid arse argument is that there is nothing stopping those defenders from making sure the qb actually goes down.
The rules say different chief.
operations.nfl.com
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A defender must pull up when a runner begins a feet-first slide.,,,
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 9:51 am
Posted on 12/7/21 at 6:34 am to chinese58
It baffles me how anyone argues that nothing is wrong with this under the current rules. I get arguing that the way the game was meant to be played this should be fine but that was pre targeting and where we are now. You simply can’t pull shite like this.
Now the people saying this should be a 15 yard penalty are a bit much. Just blow the play dead and call it a day.
Now the people saying this should be a 15 yard penalty are a bit much. Just blow the play dead and call it a day.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 8:38 am
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:08 am to GeauxD7
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No way a fake slide should be legal. If you even look at the QB wrong when he slides it’s a 15 yarder
Honestly I don’t think they need to adjust the rule at all. The refs should’ve downed him at that point. The rule is you are down at the point you start to initiate the slide. He clearly started to initiate and then stood back up.
What they should do is make the play reviewable and include a 15yd penalty if a QB does what Pickett did and fakes a slide.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 7:10 am
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:23 am to Pedro
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Now the people saying this should be a 15 yard penalty are a bit much. Just blow the play dead and call it a day.
But what happens to a defender if the web starts to slide and the defender doesn’t pull up and happens to have his shoulder graze the qb’s helmet? It would be a 15 yard penalty plus an ejection. A penalty needs to be added to stop another qb from doing this,
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 9:46 am
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:40 am to Choupique19
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But what happens to a defender if the web starts to slide and the defender doesn’t pull up and happens to have his shoulder graze the qb’s helmet? It would be a 15 yard penalty plus an ejection. A pentagon needs to be added to stop another qb from doing this,
This. If it’s a penalty for hitting someone after the player “gives himself up” then there should be a penalty if a player FAKES “giving himself up” by standing back up after starting to initiate a slide.
If would have been one thing if he merely slowed down and then started running again but he clearly started to bend his knees like he was going to slide.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:35 am to GeauxD7
The very fact that there are those arguing for a ‘rule change’ or that this was somehow ‘unsportsmanlike’ just illustrated with a very sharp point that nothing done was outside the rules or spirit of the game.
Bunch of butthurt going on in this thread.
The most intelligent comments consider simply dropping the slide rule altogether.
Besides that, trying to outlaw trickery performed within the rules is just plain pussified…
Bunch of butthurt going on in this thread.
The most intelligent comments consider simply dropping the slide rule altogether.
Besides that, trying to outlaw trickery performed within the rules is just plain pussified…
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:48 am to Knight of Old
Could require players to be down by contact. Then the defender has to tag him anyway and a flag would be limited to unnecessary roughness.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:38 am to Knight of Old
quote:Can you name other trickery that is allowed within rules designed to protect players from contact, not any of the nonsense mentioned earlier in the thread?
Besides that, trying to outlaw trickery performed within the rules is just plain pussified…
For example, can you tell me what happens when a player simulates a fair catch, but doesn’t actually call for a fair catch?
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 10:40 am
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:57 pm to MOT
White people hadn't got this mad about something on a football field since Kaepernick triggered yall and your king! 
Posted on 12/7/21 at 1:09 pm to Knight of Old
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The very fact that there are those arguing for a ‘rule change’ or that this was somehow ‘unsportsmanlike’ just illustrated with a very sharp point that nothing done was outside the rules or spirit of the game.
It's within the rules, the refs blew it.
quote:
“The college rule is different than the NFL rule,” Blandino said. “In the college rule, once you start the slide — one you break down — and your backside starts to go toward the ground. It’s over. The officials are supposed to kill it. End the play. You can’t advance the football. You can’t fumble it. You basically become a defenseless player. And that’s basically what Pickett did.”
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:17 pm to HeadCoach
quote:Oh here’s your friendly neighborhood piece of shite racist. Nice of you to join the conversation.
White people hadn't got this mad about something on a football field since Kaepernick triggered yall and your king!
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:40 pm to wildtigercat93
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It was just a frickin terrible defensive play
They only get so close before QBs start to slide. This is no different than a fake fair catch. People did that when players were 30 yards away and it was still effective enough to ban. This is garbage. Just take away the slide rule altogether if they are going to manipulate it. That should have been a 5 yard penalty from spot of the foul same as with fake fair catches.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 3:54 am to GeauxD7
This was just unsporting nonsense. It reminds me of when RG3 kept trying to bait late contact flags, and then got hurt because of it.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 3:55 am
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