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re: New rule incoming (pitt qb fake slide)

Posted on 12/5/21 at 7:44 am to
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 7:44 am to
I disagree to the fullest extent that a rule should be added to account for this wild one-off move. Posture? Come on, man.
Posted by scottfruget
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 7:45 am to
I didn’t ask for a rule. I asked for the current rule to be enforced. There is a difference.
Posted by bad93ex
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 7:47 am to
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I disagree to the fullest extent that a rule should be added to account for this wild one-off move. Posture? Come on, man.



You know god damn well that this will be attempted again unless a statement is released stating that this should have been blown dead where he began his slide.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 7:49 am to
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Just implementing the rules that are already in place.


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This play may not meet the letter of the rule


This rule?
Posted by bad93ex
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 7:56 am to
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This rule?



quote:

o. When a ball carrier simulates placing their knee on the ground

r. When a ball carrier obviously begins a feet-first slide. (A.R. 4-1-3-III)


Yes
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 7:58 am to
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You're less than one step away from calling for a rule that a player should be down for even thinking about going down.
No one said anything like this. I’m not sure why you continue to make stuff up. He simulated/began a movement that effectively makes him down and causes the defense, by rule, to pull up. If you want that to be legal then the rule about not hitting sliding players has to be removed and they have to be fair game until they are actually down. It isn’t possible to have both.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 7:58 am to
He "obviously" began a move that ended in 20 more yards. Got it. Hell of a slide.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 8:00 am to
Second angle shows it best. He deeked em
Posted by bad93ex
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 8:01 am to
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He simulated/began a movement that effectively makes him down and causes the defense, by rule, to pull up.


By starting the slide he automatically becomes a "defenseless player."

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A ball carrier who has obviously given themselves up and is sliding feet first.


He began to slow down, tucked his right leg and had his left foot out. Pickett also admits that he started the slide.
Posted by bad93ex
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 8:01 am to
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He "obviously" began a move that ended in 20 more yards. Got it. Hell of a slide.



He said that he started a slide in postgame presser, it was a slick move but it should have been blown dead.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 8:03 am to
He obviously faked a move. It was a great split second decision. If he had been hit nobody would have been penalized. Guys who actually slide take hits all the time with no flags thrown. It should be a "oh shite what a move" thing, not a "ermugerd that should illegal" thing.
Posted by bad93ex
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 8:10 am to
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He obviously faked a move.


He faked a slide, should be blown dead

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It was a great split second decision.


It was since the defenders gave up as soon as he started to slide like they're supposed to do.

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If he had been hit nobody would have been penalized.


Fake slide then actual slide results in penalty
Posted by OutOfNames
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 8:17 am to
What a B.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 5:57 am
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 8:20 am to
Thanks for the link. I'm too lazy to search hits on slides that don't result in a penalty, but we agree it happens and is fine right?

We also agree a penalty on that Wilson play was the wrong call right? People tend to have a bad habit of arguing for something they don't actually agree with, so just taking the temperature here.
Posted by The Torch
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 8:26 am to
He should be down where he faked it
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 8:31 am to
He drug his foot and the defense stopped. That's not enough to stop a play for.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 8:35 am to
The QB admitted he was in the process of sliding before changing his mind at the last second. The defenders did what they were supposed to do and slow up. The rules already overwhelming favor the offense. What is a defender supposed to do on that play?
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 8:36 am to
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What is a defender supposed to do on that play?



Not quit on the play.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 8:49 am to
I’m glad the morning has sobered a few people up and a few more people agree with the obvious truth that it was simply bad defense and shouldn’t have been blown dead.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 9:10 am to
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Not quit on the play.


If he doesn't quit on the play the QB likely completes the slide and draws the penalty.
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