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re: New rule incoming (pitt qb fake slide)
Posted on 12/5/21 at 9:11 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 12/5/21 at 9:11 am to RollTide1987
quote:
If he doesn't quit on the play the QB likely completes the slide and draws the penalty.
No he doesn’t because the defender was 10 yards away and wouldn’t have been close to contacting him during the slide
If the defender takes two more jog steps he goes down. The defender went completely on his back feet while picket was still mostly upright. That’s just bad defense
This post was edited on 12/5/21 at 9:12 am
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 9:14 am to wildtigercat93
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No he doesn’t because the defender was 10 yards away
Watch the play again. #6 was literally running next to him and gaining when he slowed up to slide.
As a defender you can't win on that play. This should be illegal.
This post was edited on 12/5/21 at 9:23 am
Posted on 12/5/21 at 10:27 am to wildtigercat93
Not your best thread
Posted on 12/5/21 at 10:29 am to GeauxD7
quote:
No way a fake slide should be legal. If you even look at the QB wrong when he slides it’s a 15 yarder
Agreed. Hell, it should have been a 15 yarder on the QB that time as CLEARLY unsportsmanlike conduct
Posted on 12/5/21 at 10:33 am to Knight of Old
quote:This is stupid because
Such a rule would be like saying no one should fake anything, ever.
I can hit you the moment you do any of these
quote:
Can’t pump fake, QB - might make the defender jump or hesitate,’
‘Can’t juke, RB - might make the defender move in the wrong direction.’
‘Can’t fake a punt/FG, ST - might cause defenders to be out of position.’
But I can't touch you if you start to slide..........
Imagine if the current rule was, "if a RB stutter steps, you can't hit him"........your examples are shite
Posted on 12/5/21 at 10:42 am to GeauxD7
The refs just missed the call. That play should have been whistled dead because the rule us the ball is place where THE QB INITIATED THE SLIDE. Hes considered down and no more contact.
It was a simple call and the refs are idiots. It's basically like an inadvertent whistle. Clearly 2 players closest to him pulled up.
It was a simple call and the refs are idiots. It's basically like an inadvertent whistle. Clearly 2 players closest to him pulled up.
Posted on 12/5/21 at 10:50 am to WestCoastAg
As an LSU fan, I know bad defense when I see it
Posted on 12/5/21 at 10:57 am to Black Hole
I’m not arguing it should be a penalty, it’s just using the rule that already exists and putting the ball where the player starts their slide.
In a play like this, he started his slide, ball is dead there. Just like a player who makes a up a fair catch signal no matter who subtle or small or changes their mind, etc.
In a play like this, he started his slide, ball is dead there. Just like a player who makes a up a fair catch signal no matter who subtle or small or changes their mind, etc.
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:40 pm to Eighteen
quote:I can see that. But really, I view a fake slide as roughly akin to a fake fair catch followed by running.
I’m not arguing it should be a penalty, it’s just using the rule that already exists and putting the ball where the player starts their slide.
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:03 pm to Knight of Old
quote:
I could go on; arguments undermining a brilliant fake are stupid…
Please don’t. The argument you’re attempting is very stupid.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 2:11 am to RB10
and if there was any doubt about if he did it on purpose
LINK
quote:
“Yeah, it was intentional. I started slowing down and pulling up, getting ready to slide, and I just kind of saw their body language. They pulled up, as well,” Pickett said. “I didn’t really know. I’ve never done that before, so I just kind of kept going after I was initially starting to slide.”
LINK
Posted on 12/6/21 at 2:18 am to Dr RC
That was so subtle you can’t possibly blow that dead… remember, he’s not the QB after the line of scrimmage, he’s just a runner
Posted on 12/6/21 at 2:26 am to chalmetteowl
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That was so subtle you can’t possibly blow that dead… remember, he’s not the QB after the line of scrimmage, he’s just a runner
It wasn't subtle at all. Look at it from the front with him coming at the camera. LINK He clearly started the slide and even admits he did it.
Also, it doesn't matter if he's "just a runner" after he gets past the line of scrimmage b/c the rule allows for ANY player who has the ball to slide to give themselves up.
That play 100% should have been blown dead.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 2:33 am
Posted on 12/6/21 at 2:28 am to chalmetteowl
quote:
That was so subtle you can’t possibly blow that dead… remember
It was blatant as hell, not subtle whatsoever. His right knee came damn near to being down as it was, it was beyond obvious what he was trying to do, then pulled up at the last second, and the defenders held back because of it. He should have been ruled down at that spot. Thank god that game didn't come down to that particular call but yeah thats something you cannot let happen going forward.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 2:29 am
Posted on 12/6/21 at 2:34 am to WaterLink
quote:at game speed??? Remember they only get one look and that type of play will never be reviewable
it was beyond obvious what he was trying to do,
It looked like a great stutter step to me
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 2:36 am
Posted on 12/6/21 at 2:38 am to chalmetteowl
quote:
at game speed???
Yes???
quote:
It looked like a great stutter step to me
Show me another "stutter step" where someone drops their knee and leans back as if to slide. I think we have different definitions of what a stutter step is.
E: And btw I feel the same way with runners that are headed to the sidelines and then suddenly cut back in. You can't have it both ways, either you give yourself up (go OOB or slide) or you get lit the frick up. You shouldn't be able to "fake" giving yourself up.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 2:49 am
Posted on 12/6/21 at 2:42 am to chalmetteowl
YES it was obvious at game speed. The damn announcers even called it out as it happened and they were way the hell up in the press box w/a far worse view than we have on TV.
Dude take the L you are straight wrong on this one.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 2:44 am
Posted on 12/6/21 at 3:19 am to Dr RC
quote:ok but blowing the play dead is crazy talk. It sounds like people are mad he made a play when they say that. Dude didnt even lose speed
YES it was obvious at game speed. The damn announcers even called it out as it happened and they were way the hell up in the press box w/a far worse view than we have on TV.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 3:22 am
Posted on 12/6/21 at 4:13 am to chalmetteowl
quote:
ok but blowing the play dead is crazy talk. It sounds like people are mad he made a play when they say that. Dude didnt even lose speed
No, blowing it dead is not crazy talk. He initiated a slide. By rule the play is supposed to stop right then and there. You can't be penalizing players for hitting a player who slides at the last second but then allow for players to pull a fake slide. That's the crazy talk.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:23 am to GRTiger
quote:the issue is if the defender had continued on trying to make contact there and the qb slid it would’ve been an instant flag and likely disqualification. I think the real answer to this is to fix targeting but that won’t happen so you have to call that play dead.
Believing that play should have been called dead is ridiculous. Saying it out loud is literally retarded.
At no point was his body actually in the act of sliding. He faked it, it was good. Wanting to immediately change the sport because of one slick move makes me hate you.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 8:24 am
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