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re: New rule incoming (pitt qb fake slide)
Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:52 am to Pedro
Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:52 am to Pedro
Y’all are stupid as shite. The guy was gonna slide, saw the defenders just give up, and because he was still on his feet made a brilliant split-second decision to stay up and keep going.
Y’all jackasses act like the defenders had to stop cause their only option is to lay the guy out so if he slides you can’t touch him, which is nonsense. One guy completely stops 10 yards away, and if the guy next to him had hit him it definitely wouldn’t have been a penalty. I mean at least give him little shove make sure he goes down.
Guys get hit all the time when starting slides that don’t get called. It’s about timing. There was zero reason for the guy next to him to stop. Also, it’s damn near impossible to do what that qb did if he was sliding to the ground. The defenders just quit too soon and qb was in position to make them pay.
As someone else kinda tried to say, if you juke a guy too well, can that be considered faking like you were going down?
Also this argument about players going out of bounds then cutting back in is dumb. Again, you can force a player out without getting a penalty or having to lay him out that close to the boundary. But, if you just stop, fricking right dude should use that against you.
Y’all jackasses act like the defenders had to stop cause their only option is to lay the guy out so if he slides you can’t touch him, which is nonsense. One guy completely stops 10 yards away, and if the guy next to him had hit him it definitely wouldn’t have been a penalty. I mean at least give him little shove make sure he goes down.
Guys get hit all the time when starting slides that don’t get called. It’s about timing. There was zero reason for the guy next to him to stop. Also, it’s damn near impossible to do what that qb did if he was sliding to the ground. The defenders just quit too soon and qb was in position to make them pay.
As someone else kinda tried to say, if you juke a guy too well, can that be considered faking like you were going down?
Also this argument about players going out of bounds then cutting back in is dumb. Again, you can force a player out without getting a penalty or having to lay him out that close to the boundary. But, if you just stop, fricking right dude should use that against you.
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:56 am to Dr RC
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You can't be penalizing players for hitting a player who slides at the last second
Yeah most of the time defenders don’t get flags if qb slides at last second which is why this entire argument is fricking stupid. The guy on side of him absolutely could have hit him or at least made sure he was down.
The other defender didn’t have to completely stop in his tracks from 10 yards away. Y’all are being dramatic.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:02 am to Pedro
quote:
the issue is if the defender had continued on trying to make contact there and the qb slid it would’ve been an instant flag and likely disqualification
I mean this is just a flat out made up lie. Y’all or purposely and wrongly confusing can’t lay him out with can’t touch him. Like what the frick does targeting have to do with this? There was no reason for either defender to just stop and not finish the play.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 11:04 am
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:05 am to Dr RC
I don't think there needs to be a rule for it, but there probably will be now.
It's no different than when someone slows down and acts like they are goign to go out of bounds, then they juke and run up the sideline.
I hate talking about the unwritten rules of baseball, but this is sort of an unwritten rule. If you want to fake sliding or fake going out of bounds to avoid contact, then the next time you are in the open field and slide, or run out of bounds, and someone hits you a little late, then don't call the penalty for late hit.
What the Pitt QB did was bush league, and b/c of what he did it probably will end up in some stupid rule change b/c he wanted to be the asshat to take advantage of something that should have been understood as part of the game. This is why soccer can be unbearable to watch, b/c those dipshits take advantage of everything possible, and the NBA is getting that way as well. Play the game the right way and stop trying to be a cheating asshat.
It's no different than when someone slows down and acts like they are goign to go out of bounds, then they juke and run up the sideline.
I hate talking about the unwritten rules of baseball, but this is sort of an unwritten rule. If you want to fake sliding or fake going out of bounds to avoid contact, then the next time you are in the open field and slide, or run out of bounds, and someone hits you a little late, then don't call the penalty for late hit.
What the Pitt QB did was bush league, and b/c of what he did it probably will end up in some stupid rule change b/c he wanted to be the asshat to take advantage of something that should have been understood as part of the game. This is why soccer can be unbearable to watch, b/c those dipshits take advantage of everything possible, and the NBA is getting that way as well. Play the game the right way and stop trying to be a cheating asshat.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:12 am to landrywasbeast30
quote:You are actually dumb as a brick
Y’all are stupid as shite. The guy was gonna slide, saw the defenders just give up, and because he was still on his feet made a brilliant split-second decision to stay up and keep going.
quote:Its clear as day for you right there. The QB admitted he started a slide. He is down right there. Period. The current rules state that. The refs fricked up like they usually do
“Yeah, it was intentional. I started slowing down and pulling up, getting ready to slide, and I just kind of saw their body language. They pulled up, as well,” Pickett said. “I didn’t really know. I’ve never done that before, so I just kind of kept going after I was initially starting to slide.”
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 11:13 am
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:13 am to TeddyPadillac
The problem with y’all stupid arse argument is that there is nothing stopping those defenders from making sure the qb actually goes down. That guy on side of him straight up could have tackled him and been fine.
The guy in front of him could have kept going towards him cause obviously the play wasn’t over. Just cause you can’t blow a guy up doesn’t meant you have to just quit on the play. There are other options.
How do y’all not understand this? The entire argument seems to be, “well you can’t knock the shite out of the guy when he slides, and the defender has zero other options on that play, therefore frick that a-hole dirty qb”.
The guy in front of him could have kept going towards him cause obviously the play wasn’t over. Just cause you can’t blow a guy up doesn’t meant you have to just quit on the play. There are other options.
How do y’all not understand this? The entire argument seems to be, “well you can’t knock the shite out of the guy when he slides, and the defender has zero other options on that play, therefore frick that a-hole dirty qb”.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:22 am to lsupride87
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Its clear as day for you right there. The QB admitted he started a slide. He is down right there. Period. The current rules state that. The refs fricked up like they usually do
I never said he wasn’t planning on sliding. His plan absolutely was to slide. Then he saw the defenders stop and was still on his feet so he kept going. The defenders had zero reason to stop on that play.
Y’all seriously suggesting that if a guy makes any motion like he is going down the play should be over? His left foot dragged, boom end of play. The guy had incredible split-second awareness to make the decision to keep going based on the defenders reacting to him dragging his foot. The slide never even started he reacted so quickly.
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You are actually dumb as a brick
I’m not the one acting like just because you can’t lay a guy out when he starts to slide that means you can’t touch him in any way, which is straight up not true.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:23 am to lsupride87
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lsupride87
In your own fricking post of you quoting the qb, he says he starting slowing down, pulling up, getting ready to slide, then saw their body language, which backs up what I said not y’all stupid fricking argument that “OMG you can’t touch him without getting a flag once he even thinks about sliding”.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 11:28 am
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:25 am to landrywasbeast30
quote:go watch any other play where a defender makes contact with a qb after theyve slid. It's an instant flag for targeting. The defender has no choice but to pull up as soon as they see a qb go into their slide.
I mean this is just a flat out made up lie. Y’all or purposely and wrongly confusing can’t lay him out with can’t touch him. Like what the frick does targeting have to do with this? There was no reason for either defender to just stop and not finish the play.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:27 am to GeauxD7
Good move by qb. But it needs to be changed.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 11:29 am
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:32 am to wildtigercat93
In coming 15 yard penalty and ejection cool story. That was a Bush league move and should be down at the spot and an unsportsmanlike like penalty.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:36 am to Pedro
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after theyve slid
Important part of that. After. You can’t come hit a qb if he is into a slide. But, a penalty usually won’t get called if you hit the qb as he is beginning his slide sliding late.
But, none of that, and especially targeting, is relevant in this case. The qb didn’t slide and even if he had gone into a slide there was a defender right next to him and one 10 yards in front of him who both quit on the play.
There is nothing stopping those guys from finishing the play making sure the qb is on the ground. You don’t have to get a penalty for targeting or hitting after the slide to finish the play. This entire argument is ridiculous.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:40 am to WhiteMandingo
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In coming 15 yard penalty and ejection cool story.
Penalty for what? What the frick are y’all talking about? Again, this argument is entirely based on the idea that the only option the defenders had was to lay the qb out as he was sliding. It just makes no fricking sense.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:47 am to landrywasbeast30
quote:The current rule states that
Y’all seriously suggesting that if a guy makes any motion like he is going down the play should be over?
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:52 am to landrywasbeast30
Theres been numerous instances of defenders starting the motion to hit a qb before they initiate their slide and making contact after and still getting flagged. We've seen it time and time again. Again my preference is to see them ease up on targeting flags but that wont happen. I'm not even mad at pickett it was a brilliant idea. It's just bullshite if refs are going to be overzealous with throwing targeting flags.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:53 am to WhiteMandingo
quote:thats a bit much. I dont think it needs a penalty just the whistle blown
That was a Bush league move and should be down at the spot and an unsportsmanlike like penalty.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 4:48 pm to landrywasbeast30
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landrywasbeast30
You are making an impressive last minute charge for dumbest poster of the year.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 5:12 pm to The Pirate King
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There’s a rule in where the ball is spotted when the QB begins his slide. He began to slide.
...except he didn't slide at all
Should the officials stop the clock on a fake spike as well?
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 12/6/21 at 5:18 pm to ManBearTiger
Nobody is throwing tackles on a spike like they are when a runner is 20 yards beyond the LOS
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