re: ND leaving the ACC for non-football sports?

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Big East is their only option and they already helped torpedo that league once.

Who would want to deal with that level of entitlement especially when nobody cares about Notre Dame non-football sports?

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Exactly. What's esp humorous is the "we're a valued member in 24 sports, though none of the are all that important" line. ACC should kiss their arse cause they field a soccer team?

How pathetic...

Notre Dame & the ACC GOR:

Non-football sports: Notre Dame is a full ACC member in men’s and women’s basketball, baseball, soccer, lacrosse, and most Olympic sports. For these, their media rights are covered under the ACC’s Grant of Rights through 2036.

Meaning: If Notre Dame wanted to move those sports to another conference (say, the Big Ten), the ACC would still control their media rights until 2036. That’s the same chokehold Clemson, Florida State, and UNC are fighting against.

Exit fee: On top of the GOR, Notre Dame would owe a hefty withdrawal penalty (estimated around $100 million).


If ND is allowed to waive the GOR that would open Pandora box for other schools to bolt...

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Notre Dame's independence isn't a quirk or a stubborn refusal to "fit in." It comes from a very real history. In the early 1900s, the Western Conference (what became the Big Ten) refused to schedule Notre Dame on the gridiron, not because of athletics, but because of anti-Catholic prejudice. Indiana politics at the time were deeply influenced by Americanism and, later, the anti-Catholic KKK.

Under Knute Rockne, Notre Dame had to barnstorm across the country simply to find teams to play them. That's actually how ND built its national following: forced to travel because local teams (led sadly by Michigan) shut their doors.

So when people say ND should "finally" join a conference, they miss the point. Notre Dame became independent because it had to. It remains independent because it built a mission, an identity, and a national presence that came from overcoming that exclusion.

The Irish don't owe anyone conference membership. Independence is part of who Notre Dame is, and it was earned the hard way.

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Knowing the history is important to understanding today.

Hopefully every P4 conference sticks together and tells them to go get fricked

I think ND should start a new conference and call it the Religious Nine. Members are ND, BYU, Boston College, Wake Forest, Duke, Baylor, TCU and SMU. It would be fun watching the Catholics vs the Mormons or the Methodist vs the Baptist and so on. They could also add the Arizona Sun Devil's to make it an even ten. I know it's a crazy idea but would be great for tv and an easy way for ND to earn their automatic entry into the CFP.

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That’s why they’re all trying to dissolve the conference…

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Notre Dame has Advocated for the ACC several times, such as Media rights negotiations, supporting/pushing for Stanford and Cal (which are good fits for the ACC academically & athletically), and in trying to keep the ACC together and viable.

I think it’s safe to say those days are over……. If the ACC doesn’t have our back, why should ND have their back….

I wouldn't take any stock in MHVer. He's throws about 100 things at the wall and hopes something sticks. He has no "insider information ". He's been around for a good 15 years or so posting nonsense.