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Buckeye Fan 19
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re: For Catholics: NBC is broadcasting Midnight Mass from the Vatican at 11:30 tonight...
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/24/25 at 5:29 pm to HarryHoudini
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Thanks. I may tune in. Christmas mass has become a nightmare bc of all the chreasters. You don’t get anything out of it anymore.
You get the Eucharist. Try to keep your focus on that, as best you can.
Merry Christmas, everyone.
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re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/23/25 at 7:41 pm to The Third Leg
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What is their incentive to play Notre Dame?
Well as I mentioned, if they’d beaten us this year, they’d be in the Playoff. If they didn’t play us this year and beat Stanford instead to finish 10-2, they’d still be behind Miami, ND, Texas and Vanderbilt (they’d probably be ahead of Utah though). I don’t know how next year will play out, but if they go 10-2 with losses to OSU and Oregon, and Indiana takes a step back, they will very likely not make the playoff without an ND win, just like 10-2 Vanderbilt (SEC) didn’t make the field this year nor 10-2 Notre Dame. But USC knows they’re not gonna win the game, so it’s still better for them to not play it.
From ND’s perspective, USC has not been an high-quality opponent recently. Including this year, they’ve finished ranked in the top-10 once in the past 14 seasons. Once. And that was back in 2016. They haven’t finished ranked in the top-10 at all in the past 9 seasons. Not even once.
They are a blueblood, but they are not a resume booster in present day. A 10-2 ND with a win over them wasn’t strong enough to make the field this year. When I said we replaced them with BYU next year who’s equivalent, I was not saying BYU is a better historical program. I was not saying BYU is a blueblood. I was saying BYU’s seasons in recent years have been in similar quality to USC’s.
The reason I want to play USC is because I like to beat USC. If on the rare occasion they have an elite season, even better. But like how you probably feel about ISU (if you’re actually a Hawkeye fan, ignore if not), it’s great if they can be a resume boost… but it really doesn’t matter if they are or not, you just want to play/beat them regardless. Regardless, based on USC’s recent level of play, we don’t “need” them. 11-1 and we’re in, with or without USC. 10-2 and we’re out, with or without USC.
re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/23/25 at 4:20 pm to Sun God
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Yeah USC is the soft program
They clearly are. Riley’s been pushing for this game to end for 18+ months.
This is the first time I’ve ever heard of a series ending when the team with the 80% winning percentage the previous decade is the “soft” one / is the one that wants the series to end, but the MSB never ceases to amaze. :lol:
re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/23/25 at 2:42 pm to usc6158
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There was an agreement to play Week Zero and ND said no.
Also, this is BS. There was never an agreement to do this. You are not allowed to play in week zero unless you play at Hawaii at some point during the season or play in a foreign country. USC probably “offered” to play in a foreign country hoping/knowing ND wouldn’t accept that in week 0 with a game at Lambeau in week 1, and knowing ND’s schedule was full otherwise through Oct. 3. While also knowing that there’s nothing about the “modern landscape” that prevents ND-USC from playing in October or November, as was done each of the past two years in the B1G’s 9-game schedule.
USC didn’t want to play this game. Period. The USC PR results have been mixed nationally, but to your credit, you’ve done a great job here on TD. But this board siding with USC, ironically, shows how far USC has fallen. Imagine people on here showing pity for USC in the Carroll era. :lol:
re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/23/25 at 10:52 am to SoDakHawk
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Lol. LA Times propaganda.
Weak.
Yeah, no way USC could possibly be lying / creating a false PR narrative here, and using the unbiased, impartial LA Times to advance their agenda…
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Turns out, the rivalry between Notre Dame and USC was close to being saved earlier this season. According to Ryan Kartje of The Los Angeles Times, the two programs almost announced a 2026 game had been scheduled. However, the agreement Notre Dame put together with the College Football Playoff changed things for the Trojans.
“USC and Notre Dame were close to announcing a continuation of their rivalry earlier this season, a source told @latimes,” Kartje said via X. “USC was ready to compromise and play the ’26 game in November But then USC learned of ND’s agreement w/ the CFP to have a guaranteed spot if in the top 12.
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A person with direct knowledge of the communications between the Big Ten conference office and schools confirmed to @NBCSports that all 18 schools received the full language of the CFP MOU, which was unanimously supported by all current and incoming members in March 2024.
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re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/22/25 at 11:28 pm to The Third Leg
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I’m here to learn about BYU being on USCs level.
They are not from a “program” standpoint. They are likely about even from a “quality of opponent” standpoint in the 2026 season, which was the context of the post. They would’ve been a better boost to ND’s SOS than USC was this year, last year and 2021, so 3 of the past 5 years. BYU is not a permanent replacement, but gong to Provo does not materially change ND’s schedule in 2026 compared to going to LA.
Beating USC didn’t help 10-2 ND get in this year. Not having USC on the schedule won’t prevent 11-1 ND from getting in. That 11-1 vs. 10-2 seems to be the cutoff for ND, regardless of if USC is on the schedule or not.
Ironically, 10-2 USC with a win over ND likely would’ve made the CFP this year, while 10-2 USC with a win over Stanford (and not playing ND) wouldn’t have, so it seems the Trojans could benefit from keeping ND on the schedule still.
Either way, the big bummer is a great rivalry game is lost. Everything is always about “the Playoff” nowadays… but honestly, it was just a lot of fun seeing ND beat USC 7 of the last 8 years. I’m going to miss not seeing it happen yet again in 2026, 2027, etc.
re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/22/25 at 11:03 pm to The Third Leg
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The Third Leg
We already established you don’t care about ND. You don’t need to keep posting repeatedly in a thread about an irrelevant program you don’t care about, it’s very weird.
re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/22/25 at 7:20 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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This is correct.
Considering we played in October this season and November last season in this modern landscape, it’s clearly not the “only” viable option. The B1G has arranged its schedules accordingly the past two years and would’ve continued to do so.
re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/22/25 at 6:16 pm to The Third Leg
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Nobody cares about gay arse Notre Dame anymore bro. Everyone is rooting for them to be relegated to playing turds and begging for inclusion as a borderline G5.
Yep, you clearly don’t care about ND.
re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/22/25 at 5:02 pm to red sox fan 13
re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/22/25 at 5:02 pm to GentleJackJones
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The Catholics kicking the Mormon’s arse every year just doesn’t have the same feel to
I think BYU is just two years, not permanent. ND did sign a 12-year deal with Clemson starting in 2027, I think as a possible contingency for USC not being renewed.
re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/22/25 at 2:00 pm to RollTide1987
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You make good points but they will be ignored because this board picks and chooses what it's outraged at.
Haha, thank you sir. Yeah, this board is extremely pissed that college football is losing tradition and expanding into mega-conferences… while simultaneously pissed that ND is trying to maintain tradition and not aid in the continued expansion/growth of mega-conferences.
The board thinks ND is cry babies for not playing in an exhibition (that has a life-sized sacrificed poptart) with mostly current backups and risking injuries to key 2026 contributors… while simultaneously thinking USC is doing the right thing of not maintaining the status quo of a century-long rivalry that they’re 1-7 in recently, because they (as reported) are worried about how a late-season loss looks to the CFP committee.
This board is not consistent in logic, just consistent in “frick ND!” Which, hey, at least that’s one remaining constant that should stand the test of time in this ever-changing college football world… :lol:
re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/22/25 at 1:29 pm to LSUlefty
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Don't blame USC at all. This game does them no good.
Similarly to Miami, if USC had beaten ND this year, it’s possible / likely they would’ve been in the CFP at 10-2. If they had replaced ND with San Jose St this year and beat them (instead of losing to ND) to finish 10-2, they still wouldn’t have made it.
I’m aware of the Texas-OSU situation, but on the flip side, strong OOC wins can still help.
re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/22/25 at 12:32 pm to southpawcock
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Notre Dame needs Southern Cal, not the other way around. It's why you feel as strongly as you do right now.
I don’t think either “needs” the other. ND’s replacing USC with BYU, about the same level of team. ND will likely have to go 11-1 to make it, but that was the case when USC was on the schedule, too.
It’s just unfortunate because it’s a great rivalry, and definitely the clear best inter-sectional one.
re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/22/25 at 12:11 pm to WG_Dawg
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And if Texas had played a scrub instead of OSU to open the year they are likely in instead of out.
Sure, just pointing out that they can also help. If Texas had beaten OSU and everything else played out exactly the same (including losing to bad UF and going to OT with bad MSU and UK), they’d be in contention for a bye, and definitely getting a home game.
re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/22/25 at 12:01 pm to SWLA92
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Notre Dame thinks teams should bend over backwards to play them.
It would’ve literally been the exact same scheduling arrangement as for the past, I don’t know… 50 years? 60 years?
re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/22/25 at 11:59 am to Epic Cajun
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Join a conference.
I hope all major P5 schools refuse to schedule the cry babies.
This post (and thread generally) basically shows how irrational people are when it comes to ND.
ND chooses not to play a minor bowl when more than half the starters would not be playing - but is now traveling to that same would-be opponent’s stadium next year in the regular season - and it’s ND as cry babies who are scared.
USC chooses to end a century-long rivalry in which they are 1-7 in the last 8 meetings… and it’s also ND’s fault for not accommodating, not that USC’s running away scared.
This board simultaneously misses “the good ole days” of college football, but is up-in-arms about ND keeping the same status it’s had for 150 years. Meanwhile, USC’s role in contributing to the demise of one of America’s great conferences in order to expand the B1G from the Pacific Ocean to New Jersey is not a big deal.
Don’t worry, the super league(s) will be coming down the pipeline, and ND will join for it. You will all get your wish.
re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/22/25 at 11:36 am to Horsemeat
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0 benefit to anybody to play competitive out of conference games now. None - if you win, great, but the punishment is not worth the reward.
Miami would not be in the playoff without the ND win.
re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/22/25 at 11:34 am to usc6158
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ND refused to play in September, which was the only viable date in the modern landscape, and then ran a media campaign around it to paint themselves as the victim.
“In fact, the two programs were on the verge of finalizing a two-year extension of their agreement in late November, with USC agreeing to host Notre Dame next season on the traditional date after Thanksgiving and the Irish hosting in 2027.
However, USC officials determined that the game date was not ideal considering past decisions from the CFP selection committee in punishing schools for losses, especially those late in the season.“
The game could’ve remained at the same dates it’s been for decades. ND had already accommodated USC for decades by not making USC play in South Bend in November. USC was fine with the current dates, until considering further the potential consequences of a loss* (which, based on recent series history, would be very, very likely).
*Also, as an aside, a bit ironic, given how the at-large scenario played out this year. Date of loss used to be much more impactful in cfb than I think it is now, which I do think is a good thing.
re: Notre Dame-USC rivalry coming to an end
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/22/25 at 11:21 am to red sox fan 13
Sad day for college football. USC’s choice, btw.
re: NFL Various Games - Week 16
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19 on 12/21/25 at 7:21 pm to CalicoLSU1980
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Scoring the TD by Goff actually hurt the Lions, if they had just gone down right away with 1 second left on clock, does that not give them 4th and goal from the 20 after the OPI? Or is there a 10 seconds left run off? By prolonging the play to leave 0 seconds left gave them no chance after their penalty
Steelers would’ve just declined the penalty.
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