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re: Is America finally experiencing football fatigue?
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:27 pm to DrrTiger
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:27 pm to DrrTiger
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The average football game is something like 150 plays. If you say 6 seconds per play give or take, you end up with about 15 minutes of actual game action in 3+ hours.
Well, that's just how the sport works. The clock runs a lot even when the play isn't going on. You can't actually fix that "problem" unless you want games to last 12 hours and for everyone to die on the field
But if you want to play this game....If we took how long a baseball "play" happens, each pitch lasts a fraction of a second. A batted ball in play lasts a handful of seconds. A steal attempt lasts a couple seconds. Most of the game is guys standing around. How much actual game action are you watching in a 9 inning game? 5-6 minutes?
It's just a disingenuous way of looking at a sporting event.
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:29 pm to High C
On NBC (33) you would not even get college games until New Years Day and that was the Rose and Orange. Maybe you might get the Saints if they were playing against AFC at the Dome. Even Sainsts games on Sundays were on CBS and only if they were away because good luck if there was a sell out.
College games were regional at that time on broadcast so depending on the announced footprint no telling who you might see and it was generally one game at 230. Watched a lot of games that I really did not care about.
Look, it's a lot better now in terms of your viewing choices, I'll admit but the amount and now length of season coupled with the NFL is over saturated now. The college season with the playoffs has become a bit too long
College games were regional at that time on broadcast so depending on the announced footprint no telling who you might see and it was generally one game at 230. Watched a lot of games that I really did not care about.
Look, it's a lot better now in terms of your viewing choices, I'll admit but the amount and now length of season coupled with the NFL is over saturated now. The college season with the playoffs has become a bit too long
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:37 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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NCAA is wuickly losing my interest as NIL/Transfers/Paying becomes a thing. I get it, but I don't have to like it.
I don’t understand this. A lot of this shite is broken, but it doesn’t really make the product on the field that much different other than closer games.
At least for more, NIL/transfers have caused my interest to wane because there are no year over year story lines to help drive the sport. Florida with Tim Tebow, Percy Harvin, Rainey and Demps were a coherent three year offensive monster in Gainesville. Bush/leinart/white at USC. And it’s not just the juggernaut teams. McFadden and Felix Jones were an identify for an Arkansas team that fans came to know and fear for a 3 year period. Same with Pat white and Steve Slaton at WVU.
Now each roster over turns seemingly by 40-50% and there is very little commonality from year to year.
It’s like each year our memories are wiped and we have to learn the entire CFB story anew each year.
As I get older, I’m just not interested in doing that.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:37 pm to RLDSC FAN
Short answer is yes.
Nfl should go back to 16 games season.
College needs to end on New Years Day or there abouts.
Games on too many days a week.
Nfl should go back to 16 games season.
College needs to end on New Years Day or there abouts.
Games on too many days a week.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:38 pm to RLDSC FAN
I was told the viewership for college and pro football was never stronger. I remember threads here of people gloating about it.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 4:15 pm to BreakawayZou83
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11 minutes of action in a 3 hour and 12 minute broadcast is a complete joke.
That’s always been the case with football.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 4:17 pm to RLDSC FAN
Anecdotally, my small circle of friends and I still use football as a means to get together, but we all agree we barely watch games anymore.
I care more for CFB than NFL, but my interest is rapidly declining in that as well.
I care more for CFB than NFL, but my interest is rapidly declining in that as well.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 4:49 pm to witty alias
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11 minutes of action in a 3 hour and 12 minute broadcast is a complete joke.
That’s always been the case with football.
I'm not suggesting that football has changed dramatically (although the games are slowly getting longer and more loaded with commercials), but the world around football has changed. 20 years ago, your options were whatever is on cable tv, or football. Now, you have a million streaming options at your fingertips. Any movie you want. Any tv show. YouTube to search for videos about whatever weird hobby you might be into. Plus a phone, iPad, or computer with a million games and the entire internet available at a moment's notice. 11 minutes of action in a 3+ hour broadcast is not going to capture the interest of kids and their nine second attention spans.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 4:57 pm to rpg37
quote:This year I reached the point where if plans to do something else came up while my team was playing, I'd do it instead. I watched about 1/4th of the games and went to two of them.
I have reached the point I watch only my team play and could not care less about others.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 4:59 pm to BreakawayZou83
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11 minutes of action in a 3+ hour broadcast is not going to capture the interest of kids and their nine second attention spans.
Too many options. The world has changed.
You basically might as well go to the games and tailgate as an all day affair because it feels like these games are taking up your entire day even on TV. CBS was the worst offender. Made the SEC unattractive, if you had shite to do? Forget it, Saturday had to be a Holiday and ignore all your other responsibilities with family. 2 minutes of action for every 5 minutes of commercials?
But, that's how we got to NIL. CFB milking every last dollar with TV deals reliant on incessant advertising.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 5:03 pm to RLDSC FAN
Touch football just isn’t as interesting as real football. There needs to be stakes and sacrifice for there to be drama. Skills competitions don’t grow in popularity
Posted on 1/24/25 at 5:13 pm to RLDSC FAN
I watched less football this year than I’ve ever watched. Most games for college and NFL were just hard to watch.
Everyone laughs at the people who say NIL is ruining college sports but it is and it’s also hampering the NFL, just to a lesser degree. Everyone shat on the preseason but less preseason time and prep time is hurting development and the quality of the the product on the field.
Everyone laughs at the people who say NIL is ruining college sports but it is and it’s also hampering the NFL, just to a lesser degree. Everyone shat on the preseason but less preseason time and prep time is hurting development and the quality of the the product on the field.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 5:22 pm to WicKed WayZ
College season is too long, and the NFL has been very predictable. Can't wait for more retarded rule changes in the NFL
Posted on 1/24/25 at 5:24 pm to BreakawayZou83
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11 minutes of action in a 3 hour and 12 minute broadcast is a complete joke.
Meanwhile real futbol is at least 90 minutes of play and no commercials, no wonder the world makes fun of american football, it really is just standing around and a bunch of commercials
Posted on 1/24/25 at 5:30 pm to 11
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Meanwhile real futbol is at least 90 minutes of play and no commercials, no wonder the world makes fun of american football, it really is just standing around and a bunch of commercials
You're gonna get downvoted but watching soccer is much more palatable than watching football. EPL is usually wrapped for the day by noon and I have the rest of my Saturday/Sunday away from a TV.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 5:45 pm to dukke v
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I watched the title game because I’m a football junkie.
So from a network and advertiser perspective….
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I think a lot of it has to do with outrageous salaries in the nfl and the NIL stuff in the college game. You have players in college going to the highest bidder.IMO it has destroyed what was a great sport(college football). Plus they stretch it out way way too long.
None of that shite matter because you still watched
Posted on 1/24/25 at 5:46 pm to gumbo2176
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Team salary caps, free agency, etc. have made it very hard for teams to keep their key players for several years in a row and build a "dynasty".
“Key players” stay on their teams almost their entire career. It’s roster depth that this has affected, which was kind of the whole point
Posted on 1/24/25 at 5:50 pm to ned nederlander
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At least for more, NIL/transfers have caused my interest to wane because there are no year over year story lines to help drive the sport. Florida with Tim Tebow, Percy Harvin, Rainey and Demps were a coherent three year offensive monster in Gainesville. Bush/leinart/white at USC. And it’s not just the juggernaut teams. McFadden and Felix Jones were an identify for an Arkansas team that fans came to know and fear for a 3 year period.
Nuss back next year for LSU, Jaxon Dart and Ole Miss was a huge story line coming into this season. Year 3 of Milroe at Bama, etc, etc. You just named some of the most iconic teams/groups of teammates in the modern era, that isn’t going to happen every season
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As I get older
There’s your real answer. I know less about MAC teams than I did when I was 20 and 25 because that’s what happens as you get older. I got shite to do
Posted on 1/24/25 at 5:55 pm to gumbo2176
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The rules changes have watered down the league so much that it is not the NFL I grew up watching. These new kickoff rules really are a joke, especially if a team is behind and now wants to attempt an on-side kick, or like Sean Payton did in the Saints Super Bowl win and surprise their opponent when least expecting it. There is no mystery now.
Definitely a lot of issues with rules to point to, the onside kick example is a weird one to focus on. Surprise onside kicks are such a small and minuscule part of the game. There were maybe 2 of those every 10 years across the league.
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know I don't watch near as much NFL football as I once did. Team salary caps, free agency, etc. have made it very hard for teams to keep their key players for several years in a row and build a "dynasty
Weird take given we are currently living in 1 teams dynasty era following another team having a 20 year dynasty run prior to that
Plus there’s exponentially more money to allow them to keep their home grown players. Free agency has been completely errorded of depth because teams have so much money and cap tricks to retain their worthy talent.
Posted on 1/24/25 at 5:56 pm to bad93ex
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You're gonna get downvoted but watching soccer is much more palatable than watching football.
Yeah, ~2 hours start to finish for most games and the game only stops for halftime
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