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re: Is America finally experiencing football fatigue?

Posted on 1/24/25 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 6:00 pm to
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So what’s the solution?

Quit trying to compare tv ratings of the past to tv ratings of today. The older generations are dying off and young people arent buying cable subscriptions and most dont even bother with an hd antenna.

If they wanna watch the game they'll just go to a bar or their friends.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 6:11 pm to


quote]Quit trying to compare tv ratings of the past to tv ratings of today. The older generations are dying off and young people arent buying cable subscriptions and most dont even bother with an hd antenna. If they wanna watch the game they'll just go to a bar or their friends.[/quote]

I don’t understand this though. Rights deals keep going up and up. The networks can say more eyes are on the product and for the sake of argument, let’s say that’s true. But if the eyes that are on it are in a bar, that seems WAY less valuable to me than at their home because there’s more distractions, the sound is likely off or muffled from crowd noise, etc. It would seem to me that advertising space is worth less per person, but the advertisers keep paying more and more
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:12 pm to
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the Taylor Swift gimmick is a huge turnoff for a lot of people


Is this even still a thing anymore?

I get they show her once or twice during the chiefs games she attends, but I feel like the coverage of her is like 1/10th what it was last year.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:20 pm to
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In regards to watching, it pretty much stopped mattering when the CFP started. Yeah, SEC games are still important to your team, but the BCS made games in weird conferences matter, and not just in a "oh this should be fun" way, it was strategic.


BCS was goated.


And yes, plenty of teams got “screwed”. But that actually made it way more fun and interesting.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:24 pm to
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I don’t understand this though. Rights deals keep going up and up.

because while sports TV ratings are going down a little, everything else gets NO ratings.

Live sports are basically the only things that draw any kind of ratings. They are a bigger piece of a smaller pie than in the past

1.59 million out of 63 million total viewers is a higher percentage than 2.51 million out of 112 million
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 7:29 pm
Posted by 11
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:27 pm to
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You're gonna get downvoted but watching soccer is much more palatable than watching football. EPL is usually wrapped for the day by noon and I have the rest of my Saturday/Sunday away from a TV.


Yep I watch several matches of different leagues every weekend, the matches fly by especially if you're watching on replay and can skip the half.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56319 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:29 pm to
Soccer will overtake American football in popularity by the year 2000
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:31 pm to
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Soccer will overtake American football in popularity by the year 2000

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39420 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 7:34 pm to
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Soccer will overtake American football in popularity by the year 2000


Nah man, it will happen sooner, around 1975 probably.



Sport of the future.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36158 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 9:39 pm to
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Yeah, ~2 hours start to finish for most games and the game only stops for halftime



World Cup games were the worst offenders but again it is the World Cup which only occurs every 4 years.

quote:

Soccer will overtake American football in popularity by the year 2000


Even with the changing demographics within the United States I still don't think that Soccer will ever take the top throne since MLS has a very very long way to go and add in the fact that hispanics absolutely love baseball and football.

Personal anecdotal story: When I was in Cabo there was a local group of baws visiting the beach with a case of beer, a soccer ball and a football. It was a guilty pleasure watching them try to throw a football.
This post was edited on 1/24/25 at 9:44 pm
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11747 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 11:13 pm to
Whether its fatigue or over-saturation there is definitely an issue with college football.

Even when there were complaints of too many bowl games, there was a long time period between the end of the conference championship games and meaningful bowl games to build anticipation. Now that anticipation gap has been replaced with somewhat meaningful early playoff games and even those are 10 days instead of one week apart dragging things out even farther.

The NFL adding a 17th game was really dumb as well. With only one team getting a playoff bye, it means more teams have their playoff positioning set before the last game of the season making a lot of those games meaningless with starters resting.

I still love both college and pro ball, but this along with them legislating hitting out of the game, has my interest down this year and really the last 10 years.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54837 posts
Posted on 1/25/25 at 12:10 am to
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but I feel like the coverage of her is like 1/10th what it was last year.
no shite, she had a tour to promote last year
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
2126 posts
Posted on 1/25/25 at 6:31 am to
I would watch them all if they had 75% less commercials.

If I don’t have a betting interest or team interest and I watch 7minutes of commercials for 2 minutes of game play I usually find something else to watch ad free or just do something else. I’ll check the score on my phone to see if I need to go back and watch.
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/25/25 at 6:37 am to
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Yeah, ~2 hours start to finish for most games and the game only stops for halftime


If nfl games were like this I would probably watch every single one of them.

Haven’t seen a 3.5 Monday night game in a long while.

Also it seems like it’s the same damn commercial over and over and that starts to annoy me.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
22317 posts
Posted on 1/25/25 at 6:40 am to
Monday you were coming off nfl playoffs plus the inauguration. Tough spot
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
29622 posts
Posted on 1/25/25 at 7:01 am to
There's only three more games.


This is why those offshoot BS leagues always fail, by the end of the Super Bowl there's a big let down and everyone needs a break.

Then here comes Vince and the Rock pushing the XFL garbage


Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33651 posts
Posted on 1/25/25 at 7:11 am to
I watch less football than I ever have.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33651 posts
Posted on 1/25/25 at 7:12 am to
Yeah that was a terrible day to put the game. Inauguration sucked up all the oxygen.
Posted by UnitedFruitCompany
Bay Area
Member since Nov 2018
4093 posts
Posted on 1/25/25 at 7:52 am to
Joe Burrow figured this out last year. He wants to see two bye weeks for each team during the year, that way you can time super bowl weekend to be on presidents day weekend so you get that national holiday by default everyone wants after the super bowl.

As for the decline in popularity, I blame the owners and media folks. They keep squeezing out the common fan with the push for luxury boxes and insane prices to attend the games and diminished game action to squeeze in more commercials to pay for it all. After tickets, parking, concessions, etc you're looking at or around $500 to attend a game. Thats a couple of months of groceries. If you cant routinely go and feel like you are a part of the team then its just something else on the TV. Pretty easy to change the channel then.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54837 posts
Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:08 am to
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This is why those offshoot BS leagues always fail, by the end of the Super Bowl there's a big let down and everyone needs a break.



Not to mention they’re D-list players when we’re mentally used to the A and B list players in the NFL, plus they’re up against the A-listers from other sports
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