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re: Is America finally experiencing football fatigue?

Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 12:58 pm to
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I’m probably alone here but the quirkiness of college football is what set it apart. The championship selection process was messy but it made the regular season matter more than any other sport.



I agree, the quirkiness is what made it great and different.

Its Why you look back now at the BCS with reverence but at the time you might have hated it. Using computers was crazy and was bait for unlimited discussion. Now thats all killed.

Would give anything for the BCS now.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:00 pm to
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I’m probably alone here but the quirkiness of college football is what set it apart. The championship selection process was messy but it made the regular season matter more than any other sport.


The regular season hasn't mattered in CFB for about 15 years now. It may have mattered for 100+ teams, but there were a select group that could still lose and those losses counted as wins anyway.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:01 pm to
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When Pitt beat West Virginia in 2007, that wasn't just a 'fun upset' to LSU fans, it actually mattered.


2007 perfectly captures what made college football the greatest sport out there.

It was madness that no other sport had.

Was it quirky and a little ridiculous? Of course but that's what made college football college football.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:02 pm to
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Think of the explosion of games on Saturday. Wall to Wall on Fox and ABC/ESPN. CBS....NBC in on the action with Big 10 games on Saturday night along with Notre Dame home games. Fox also has moved into Friday night.

Then the NFL with Monday and Thursday plus now Black Friday games.

It becomes a bit much by the beginning of November


I’m going to open the OK Boomer crap with this, but it’s a useful comparison. In 1980, rural Louisiana northeast of Baton Rouge we had access to channels 2 (ABC), 9 (CBS), and 33 (NBC). It was very rare to get a decent picture on 33, so it was really just 2 and 9. The Saints went 1-15 that year, but I watched every game that wasn’t on 33 with great excitement. You might have LSU football televised 2-3 times a year then. EVERY game, Saints or LSU that you could watch on television seemed like a major event if you loved football.

Now…not so much.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:08 pm to
Other than Thanksgiving, I've never really liked the idea of Thursday night football to begin with

I don't really mind the international games unless the Saints were playing in one of them and I had to wake up at 8:30 or whatever it is.

There were a lot of bad teams in the NFL this year, which meant that there were a lot of bad games.

There seem to be a couple of weeks there at the end of the season when there were multiple games on Saturday. I don't know. It did bother me but I could see why when you're constantly feeling like you need to have a game between Thursday and Sunday and spreading it out that can kind of get old.

College ball had some good games this year, but the playoffs itself didn't deliver at all in my opinion.

Having some of those games on Fridays during the playoffs. I didn't care for that either.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:09 pm to
I barely watched any college football this past season. Don't care for the NIL/transfer portal garbage
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:19 pm to
I truly believe it has. I think a lot of it has to do with outrageous salaries in the nfl and the NIL stuff in the college game. You have players in college going to the highest bidder.IMO it has destroyed what was a great sport(college football). Plus they stretch it out way way too long. I watched the title game because I’m a football junkie. But my rooting interest in it was just not like it used to be.
Posted by GeauxPanthers2
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:27 pm to
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At first look it seems ridiculous, but that may be what drives it's success as a televised sport. You can casually watch it and not miss any of the game action. Watch a play, chat with family or friends, watch a slo-mo replay, have a snack or take a drink, watch another play, chat about the play, etc.

It makes for very social viewing. Could they tighten it up, get rid of the fluff, and reduce the time? Absolutely.

This is why basketball sucks. And then the parts at the end of the game you actually want to be locked in to watch, that's when there's a million stoppages and commercials.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:45 pm to
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Say your team isn’t that good this year. But you’re intrigued by some of the young guys that are getting playing time. Its keeping your interest now and giving you an optimistic outlook for next season. Now half of those players you were excited about are going to hit the transfer portal and be playing somewhere else next year because another school’s boosters or NIL collective threw more money at them. Kind of takes away the interest in watching a non-playoff contending program taking strides to improve when the entire roster becomes free agents at the end of the regular season.


It’s bad for the mid majors like the MAC, no question, but people aren’t watching that anyway (as a percentage of the power conferences, don’t get hung up)
Posted by IggyReilly
New Orleans, LA
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:47 pm to
The NFL has spent the last 20 years willfully diluting and weakening it's product all in the name of additional revenue. Look, I get it. I'm a capitalist too, I understand that businesses exist to make money. But if you spend enough time weakening your product you can't act shocked if you start to lose your customer base.

No fans were calling for a 17th game (and certainly not an 18th). Few fans wanted a 7th playoff team (I liked that the 2 seeds could still get a bye). Few fans want an expanded slate of international games. The Thursday night games are routinely the sloppiest of the week because 3 days is just not enough time to be ready to play again. The draft is less fun now that it takes place Thursday - Saturday instead of Saturday and Sunday. Adding more broadcasting partners via streaming apps just means fans have to spend more to get all of the games we want.

I could go on and on. The fact of the matter is the NFL in the Goodell era hasn't focused on doing one single thing to actually strengthen the game and make it more entertaining for fans. If it makes them a nickle more then they'll do it and damn the fans that complain about it.

The NFL has acted under the assumption that nothing they could ever do would turn fans off from watching, which for the most part has been true going back to the 70s. But there's always going to be a limit at some point and the NFL has made it clear that they're not going to stop until they blow past that limit and at that point it may be too late.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 1:55 pm to
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If it makes them a nickle more then they'll do it and damn the fans that complain about it.


They will continue stacking those nickels until the fans do something about it. Capitalism.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 2:27 pm to
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Is America finally experiencing football fatigue?




Probably a good time then for me to let everyone know that the 2025 season of Major League Rugby kicks off on February 15.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/24/25 at 2:27 pm to
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let everyone know that the 2025 season of Major League Rugby kicks off on February 15.


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Seldom Seen


Username checks out
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25727 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:01 pm to
How is there only 11 minutes of action in a 60 minute game?
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72131 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:04 pm to
The nfl has a flag problem.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
20049 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:05 pm to
The rules changes have watered down the league so much that it is not the NFL I grew up watching. These new kickoff rules really are a joke, especially if a team is behind and now wants to attempt an on-side kick, or like Sean Payton did in the Saints Super Bowl win and surprise their opponent when least expecting it. There is no mystery now.

I know I don't watch near as much NFL football as I once did. Team salary caps, free agency, etc. have made it very hard for teams to keep their key players for several years in a row and build a "dynasty".

And now with college treating these kids like they are rock stars and bidding for their services, it's ruining that side of the game with key players running to where the money is best.

It's now not enough they are getting a free college education, they want to be paid like the pros and have no loyalty to the team that gave them their opportunity to showcase their talent.

Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
2544 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:16 pm to
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It’s mostly just commercials and players standing around


And it gets worse the further you break it down.

The average football game is something like 150 plays. If you say 6 seconds per play give or take, you end up with about 15 minutes of actual game action in 3+ hours.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36158 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:19 pm to
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Is America finally experiencing football fatigue?


I have no desire to watch any of the games this weekend but I am a Houston Texans fan so YMMV. Although I will be watching some EPL action in the morning before I go about my weekend activities.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39420 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:23 pm to
Season teetering on NBA ridiculousness.

Too many teams, too many bowls, too long.

Ohio State won the MNC in 1954 at 10-0.

This year Ohio State won the Playoff Title at 14-2.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477178 posts
Posted on 1/24/25 at 3:25 pm to
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I’ve got no clue how advertisers are getting a return on their investment at the prices they are paying


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This is something that legitimately puzzles me.


Sports are the only thin they can fully sell to advertisers because so few people watch live TV today outside of sports.
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