BreakawayZou83

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There are only 10-15 teams able to compete in the modern landscape and even thats largely dependent on which boosters have money at a given time.

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It's more than 10-15, but it's less than the entire P4. Anyone sitting outside the B1G, SEC, and not named Notre Dame is in for a tough time if they are going to try to compete against the likes of Ohio State, Alabama, and Texas. A few of the programs in the B1G and SEC are probably on the bubble too: UCLA and Rutgers, for instance, have both struggled with big deficits and lack of athletic revenue.

I also think that the player pay bubble will burst and come back down to earth slightly. But we're going through the growing pains of the pay to play era, and some of these programs who are tremendously over-spending (Colorado, Louisville, somehow Rutgers despite getting all the B1G money, etc.) are probably going to set themselves back for decades with deficits in the meantime.

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When I joined this site, I thought it was Tenner and LSU fans were decent. After spending a year here, it’s undoubtedly the absolute subhuman trash that proudly says sttdb

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Can’t look at it that way. The Rant is an LSU hive of scum and villainy. But most of them out in the real world are fine. I’ve yet to meet a Tennessee fan that didn’t look and act like a gas station version of Guy Fieri.

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Trashiest Wives Official Power Rankings

1. BreakawayZou83

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Disgusting to speak about your mother that way.

I thought this was a football conference.

1. Tennessee. They are permanently #1 and this needs no further explanation.

2. Georgia. Kirby has lost control of Georgia football and their football players continue to drive recklessly, flagrantly disregard the law, and still find a way for them to be eligible on each saturday in the fall. They bark at children. The bottom 10% of their fanbase are worse than anyone else by a country mile (besides Tennessee, of course).

3. LSU. The whole Kiffin situation was never pretty and he just keeps making it worse. Never seen a guy burn bridges behind him like Lane. And LSU fans are slurping it up (for now). Over/under on years before he is eastbound and down coaching at FAU: three.

And we can't ignore the piss balloons.

4. Alabama They may be relatively down, but so are their cousins.

5. Florida. Just because they haven't been winning much in football doesn't mean that their fanbase has improved by any measure.

6. South Carolina. This is genuinely a position of respect. It take a real special breed of football fans to rabidly support a program as bad as South Carolina's.

7. Auburn. Just like the program itself, Auburn can't quite garner the spotlight of its in-state big sibling. But deep down, you're just a store brand version of them.

8. Oklahoma. New to the conference, but if there is any metric that demonstrates that these baws belong, it is their obnoxious fanbase.

9. Ole Miss. Dropped about five spots by shedding Lane Kiffin to LSU. Still Ole Miss though.

10. Texas A&M. I hesitated to put them here. Because despite being weird, cultish, and unsettling, they aren't trashy. In fact, they are almost too nice. Which is kind of trashy in its own right? I just don't understand them.

11. Arkansas. They're down bad right now. They have the capacity to be a top five trashy SEC fanbase, but they just seem entirely broken by years of bad football.

12. Mississippi State. We've entered the firmly non-trashy range. They happen to sit at the top of that group simply because they are Mississippi's ag school. And the damn cowbells.

13. Missouri. Trying harder to prove they belong than the schools below. But more sad than trashy. Flying the "Q" flag on Saturdays, especially against ku, gives a few points.

14. Kentucky. Decidedly not trashy. But their fans are awful during basketball season, so they get a nod above the teams below.

15. Texas. Fair-weather, bandwagon, soft. Austin isn't a college town. Bunch of selfish, conference-wrecking bastards. They don't qualify as trashy. They're a brand name more than a community. Their campus looks like a Model United Nations convention. Get fricked.

16. Vanderbilt. Posters on the Rant talk about kicking Vanderbilt out of the SEC, but I'm frankly surprised that they stick around with us lot. You think they need our paltry football money?

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Missouri, as a state, is crazy for baseball. I wonder if the two pro teams just suck all the oxygen out of the room.

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That probably plays a role.

But the far bigger one is the complete and utter lack of investment in the program. They play in a sad little dump of a stadium and spend nothing on the program. If they built a new stadium (or significantly improved the current one), and actually threw some cash at coaching/facilities/etc., I think it could be a well-supported program.

For evidence to support that, look at our softball program. After building a brand new stadium and throwing some spend at the program, they are averaging the 5th highest attendance in the nation this season (despite being just 9-15 in the SEC), they were 6th last year (despite being just 6-18 in the SEC), and 4th in 2023-2024. They averaged 2,700+ per game that season compared to the baseball program at just 1,300.

These numbers seem entirely made up. Mizzou had a single gift in 2024 that was worth $62 million alone.

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Missouri has basically accepted mediocrity. They must make enough money to not care.

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Not everyone gets to be Alabama or Georgia. Drink has built a good culture and improved the program overall. We could easily be in the same place as Arkansas or Kentucky right now. So you say paying for mediocrity, I say paying for stability.

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13. Missouri

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We sellout a stadium and have spent three quarters of a billion dollars on the football program in the past decade for a team that hasn't won a conference championship since the 1960s. I doubt there are 12 more loyal fanbases in the whole country.

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think there is a very firm agreement by the SEC and UF that the conference will not add FSU and Miami. Plus the goal is to add marketplaces, they already have most of the Florida marketplace.

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That might have been true 15 years ago. I think the SEC will add FSU if/when they break free of the ACC. Marketplaces still matter, but not to the degree they did a decade ago. Mizzou is lucky that they were an expansion target in the peak era of adding cable boxes/metros to increase conference revenue. The focus now is shifting to adding premium brands and creating compelling match-ups so that people will buy streaming packages and watch what the SEC has to offer (side note: this is where I think the SEC is much better positioned long-term than the B1G).

FSU offers both: a successful, popular program that regularly rates in the Top 10-15 in terms of viewership and athletic revenue despite being in the ACC, and it has immediate rivalries/good games with some big SEC schools that college football fans will want to watch. The biggest downside is their lack of market, and that does still somewhat matter, but I don't think it's a big enough inhibitor that the SEC lets them end up in the B1G.

(For what it's worth, I have no skin in the game here and I don't give a rat's arse about Florida State, never even been on their campus. Just calling it how I see it.)

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They dont have a GOR problem anymore. Buyout goes down yearly till 2036.

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They do until they can afford to pay the exit fee. Sounds like FSU's AD thinks they can afford it in about 24 months.