re: Just came back from China. Our auto industry is doomed.

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as long as it benefits them

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As long as it advances socialism or communism.

I like our lineup of vehicles.

We have the best ICE vehicles in the world. Our EV lineup is also great.

I prefer to have a choice between the two.

The U.S. has been using their slave labor for years.. now you have a problem with it. You are the joke.

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Why do we care if they are paid slave wages or not if we the consumer benefit Also why do we care if their govt subsidizes if we aren’t the ones taxed

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Is this sarcasm?

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All of their uber equivalent was EVs that put Tesla to shame.

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In what ways? Seriously I’d like to know how you concluded this by taking Uber rides in a Chinese city.

I wouldn’t expect their cars to be similar to ones suited for American lifestyles for very practical reasons.

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If China is subsidizing your purchases, you and I both know they'll be bankrupt and broke pretty quickly. A smart guy would buy lots of Chinese imports, sell at profit and thank the Chinese govt for helping you build your capitalistic wealth at their loss.

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Who warranties these products if the manufacturer is facing imminent economic failure?

You keep trying to spin this as MAGA mental gymnastics but in reality this is a more basic economic discussion you don’t seem willing to have. If international markets are included in your local “free” market, international government intervention affects how “free” your market actually is. Once you accept that, you can appreciate why international economic positioning becomes incredibly messy. In this scenario you describe, if left to individual consumers that all buy Chinese EVs because of perceived value, the US auto market collapses. When consumers are looking for their next car, and their only options are Chinese EVs now free from price and quality control, are they operating in a free market? Were they when they bought the initial vehicle?

I can see why you would prefer simplifying that to “MAGA is the problem” but government intervention in international balance of trade has and will persist well beyond political parties much less a particular politician.

I kind of throw the op out with the bathwater, because when you're a commie lover, I really shouldn't trust your opinions on any economic matter.

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basic economic discussion you don’t seem willing to have.

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That's hilarious...

I've had this economic position for years and discussed it a hundred times....
It's not I that's unwilling to have this conversation..

You know how they say guns are in Americans’ DNA?

Well, the internal combustion engine is the next sequence in line. That’s just not going to change.

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Well, they have been at it for quite some time and that hasn’t happened yet.

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Sure it has. China is facing serious economic issues.

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China is now losing altitude. "China's economy is in a slow grind downwards," Andrew Collier of Hong Kong-based Orient Capital Research and Harvard's Kennedy School

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You can only throw money around for so long until it becomes worthless.