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re: Why I think Clemson is overrated and not as good as preseason media thinks

Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19731 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:32 pm to
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I feel like guys get way more tired in game 1 than they do later in the year.
nonsense. S&C coaches have the players training year-round and fall camp is the time to round the guys into game shape.

Using conditioning as an excuse for game 1 is pretty weak. Besides, doesn't the same thing apply to Clemson?

Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34064 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 2:48 pm to
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completely agree with you, but half this board wants us to open with a cupcake.


As a fan, I love the fact LSU is opening with Clemson and not a smaller conf. opponent. But from a competitive standpoint, the game doesn't make much sense. A 10-2 LSU (with non conference wins over LA Tech, Grambling, Western Kentucky and, say, Miami-OH) would have a significantly better chance of making the CFP over a 9-3 LSU team with 2 SEC losses and a loss at Clemson).

Obviously the easy answer is "just beat Clemson". But the reality is the risk of a loss at Clemson FAR outweighs the benefit of a win at Clemson.
Posted by ROPO
Member since Jul 2016
3337 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:07 pm to
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Side note: I saw the stat that since the transfer portal started, the most transfers a team that won the natty took the year before was 9. We took 18 this year. We’ll see if we can break that trend.


That’s a pretty small sample size though.
Posted by SanFranTiger
Santa Fe, NM
Member since Sep 2003
5032 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:42 pm to
that might all be true, but Brian Kelly is still doing first game prep for the Tigers. He hasn't exactly shown he’s very good at preparing for season openers
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17008 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:47 pm to
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That’s a pretty small sample size though.

I agree. And I'm not saying it means anything, I just thought it was interesting being such a big discrepancy.
Posted by mikedatyger
Orlandeaux, FL
Member since Jun 2005
4327 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:54 pm to
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Plus our D will be better than their D

Doesn’t matter. We need our UNPROVEN OL to be better than their DL.
THAT is the key.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11761 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 3:56 pm to
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Doesn’t matter. We need our UNPROVEN OL to be better than their DL.
THAT is the key.


We need our OL to hold their own, we don't need them to dominate. We particularly need our OL to be able to run block. If we can run, we can wear their DL out a bit and slow down their pass rush. If we can't run, we will need Nuss to be extremely efficient with his decision making.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 6:22 pm to
none of it has made sense....they were not good last year and now they have like 5 guys projected 1st round. Something just doesn't add up.
Posted by sabbertooth
A Distant Planet
Member since Sep 2006
6035 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 6:55 pm to
LSU’s achilles heal is their OL that has never played a game together. They will really struggle at an away game. Im not sure LSU can overcome this problem.
This post was edited on 8/4/25 at 7:46 pm
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67381 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 7:21 pm to
Clemson is always tough, especially at home. Their history over the last decade or so deserves some respect.

LSU will have to play a very good game…
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20656 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 7:25 pm to
Season over with a loss in Game 1. BK is, at best, a 2 loss every season SEC coach.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60728 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 7:27 pm to
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Obviously the easy answer is "just beat Clemson


Or not lose 2 SEC games or win the SEC

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But the reality is the risk of a loss at Clemson FAR outweighs the benefit of a win at Clemson.


A win all but guarantees you a playoff berth unless you really throw up on yourself and lose 3 conference games in which case you are not making the playoff anyway especially with 4 cupcakes OOC
This post was edited on 8/4/25 at 7:29 pm
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3995 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:17 pm to
I dont know, it seems they're excited about what they have coming back, we also have some excitement with our team speed and experience. I think we really have to see the teams play a couple games before any one knows who is a title contender and who is just another top 15 team.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
14432 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:47 pm to
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Id rather play Grambling to be honest.
Absolutely. Grambling or any SWAC/HBCU school.

You get a warm up practice game to work the kinks out and the fans get to see an entertaining HBCU Band at halftime...........
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
4955 posts
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:57 pm to
stop the QB scramble, and we will win.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
7310 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 6:19 am to
Certainly not overrated but, if wishful thinking makes you feel better about this game, so be it.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17645 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 6:42 am to
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A win all but guarantees you a playoff berth unless you really throw up on yourself and lose 3 conference games in which case you are not making the playoff anyway especially with 4 cupcakes OOC


I can tell you this, no way we sniff a natty in 2007 had we played Kent St. instead of playing and trouncing Va Tech that year.

I think an SEC team can absolutely make the playoff at 9-3 if one of those losses is a game 1 defeat at Clemson. Now you can't lose to Vandy or Kentucky like Bama and Ole Piss did last year, you forfeit you right to bitch about it if you do that IMHO.

So if the other losses are say to 2 SEC teams that finish in the top 15 and Clemson finishes in the top 10 - there is a very good chance we would make the playoff IMHO even with 3.

But I personally think we'll go 10-2 this season, so it won't matter.....Geaux Tigers!!

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51974 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 6:55 am to
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We lose at Clemson & we can only afford one SEC loss. That is rare for most SEC teams today.

That only matters if the national championship is your goal. And if that is the case, a three loss team has no chance of winning the national championship even if you put them in the playoffs.
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
110678 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:00 am to
Home field advantage is the difference in this game
We would be favored by 3 at our stadium
Posted by Masonburden67
Member since Dec 2017
1367 posts
Posted on 8/5/25 at 7:03 am to
I don’t know you completely dropped the ball of the starting oline lol
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