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re: Why does Baker struggle with Mobile QBs?
Posted on 7/2/26 at 5:51 am to cajuntiger1010
Posted on 7/2/26 at 5:51 am to cajuntiger1010
Most defenses have problems against mobile QB’s
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Posted on 7/2/26 at 6:02 am to cajuntiger1010
The defensive roster has not been top notch during his tenure. Last year's offense was so bad that the defense was gassed as the game wore on.
Daniels did that to everyone's defense in 2023.
As others have said, he plays an aggressive style of D and we seem to lose contain at times.
Baker is solid but he is not elite yet.
Daniels did that to everyone's defense in 2023.
As others have said, he plays an aggressive style of D and we seem to lose contain at times.
Baker is solid but he is not elite yet.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 6:03 am to cajuntiger1010
His defenses to this point are similar to a pitcher with a 100mph fastball. It works great and is successful, but when you face better hitters, you need to change speeds and have something else to throw.
His defenses are good, and at times overly aggressive with blitzes. Those work great against pocket passers. But mobile qbs can ignite that style of defense if they get past the first wave or if the blitz doesnt get to them in time. Usually the best defenses that stop mobile QBs are ones that rush 4 and play more zone defense. You also need your Defensive ends to stay in their lanes and not overpursue the edge getting too deep behind the qb on their rush. Its very tough to do, and alot of defenses do struggle with that style, but bakers defenses struggle a bit more with it due to his style. Hopefully he adjusts some this season after having to go against this new system all offseason
His defenses are good, and at times overly aggressive with blitzes. Those work great against pocket passers. But mobile qbs can ignite that style of defense if they get past the first wave or if the blitz doesnt get to them in time. Usually the best defenses that stop mobile QBs are ones that rush 4 and play more zone defense. You also need your Defensive ends to stay in their lanes and not overpursue the edge getting too deep behind the qb on their rush. Its very tough to do, and alot of defenses do struggle with that style, but bakers defenses struggle a bit more with it due to his style. Hopefully he adjusts some this season after having to go against this new system all offseason
Posted on 7/2/26 at 6:20 am to cajuntiger1010
A lot of people say it's because the offense couldn't hold the ball 
I would say we lacked the right linebackers, or pass rushers. We'd get heavy pressure, but if they didn't get an immediate sack, it was off to the races. If we "just" flushed the QB he usually ran wild.
That says to me, you either need to finish the QB off with the rush instead of "just" making him move, or you need that guy who can contain him as he gets past the linemen.
We didn't have linemen who could finish the play off. White dude who came in from Florida was a prime example, he would always be close, but not get the sack. And then, we lacked a Devin White/Patrick Queen guy who'd clean things up.
I would say we lacked the right linebackers, or pass rushers. We'd get heavy pressure, but if they didn't get an immediate sack, it was off to the races. If we "just" flushed the QB he usually ran wild.
That says to me, you either need to finish the QB off with the rush instead of "just" making him move, or you need that guy who can contain him as he gets past the linemen.
We didn't have linemen who could finish the play off. White dude who came in from Florida was a prime example, he would always be close, but not get the sack. And then, we lacked a Devin White/Patrick Queen guy who'd clean things up.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 6:31 am to lsutiger2
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No one wants to believe it but he lost his qb of the defense when Whit went down
If our defense crumbles and loses games in an embarrassing fashion, simply because one dude went down, we are royally fricked
Posted on 7/2/26 at 7:09 am to cajuntiger1010
It’s a numbers game when you are defending the run. If a QB isn’t a threat to run, the defense has a major advantage with an extra man available to stop the run (11v10). If the QB is a threat to run, now it’s 11v11 and one missed tackle by the defender accounting for QB could be detrimental. That’s why so many OC’s want a QB who is a threat to run.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 7:10 am to sunnydaze
Having lock down corners and strong safety play are essential
Posted on 7/2/26 at 7:14 am to cajuntiger1010
I think it’s been said, it mostly a scheme issue because of the pressure Baker tries to generate. Constantly blitzing and playing man behind it, leaves you vulnerable because if you miss in the pressure, the db’s backs are turned and there’s no support players for the qb.
Against Reed this year, he should only rush 3 or 4 and make him throw the ball all the way down the field. He can’t complete 4-5 passes in a series
Against Reed this year, he should only rush 3 or 4 and make him throw the ball all the way down the field. He can’t complete 4-5 passes in a series
Posted on 7/2/26 at 7:15 am to Dlab2013
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Name a DC that shuts down Elite “Mobile QBs” not named John Chavis…. If you can put together a list it’s very small….
We also had success against Lamar Jackson. I think that was Aranda.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 7:38 am to cajuntiger1010
He needs to go back and watch how we beat Lamar, Manziel, etc. Don’t over pursue, ends keep contain, and just make them beat you with the arm.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 7:39 am to cajuntiger1010
Every defense struggles with good mobile QBs.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 7:40 am to itsbigmikey
For some reason Perkins was not the answer to mobile qb’s that you’d think given his athleticism and speed. I bet we’re much better in this area this time around.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 7:49 am to cajuntiger1010
I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but one of the most important things in stopping a mobile QB is a strong D-line. Baker hasn't had that since being at LSU.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 7:50 am to cajuntiger1010
The game of football is a game of math. A QB who pulls it down and runs adds another hat and is an equalizer for any schematic advantage you have on a defensive call. That goes for any defense.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 7:58 am to cajuntiger1010
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but still struggled with Reed & Pavia. Milroe tore us up in ‘24 and in ‘23 Jayden Daniels tore Baker up at Mizzou (thank God)
Think back to all these QBs you listed. Was it just LSU they were good against? Or in the case of JD,was it just Baker and Mizzou he "tore up?"
Posted on 7/2/26 at 7:58 am to cajuntiger1010
Name a defensive coordinator that can successfully stop Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson from taking off and doing what they want.
There are none. You simply hope to get them in 3rd and long so that you can tackle them before they get to the sticks.
There are none. You simply hope to get them in 3rd and long so that you can tackle them before they get to the sticks.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:03 am to cajuntiger1010
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Can anyone who knows ball here give a good answer?
I am not an expert but this is JMHO...
Because he employs a high blitz rate for QB pressure and hence can leave gaping holes in the LOS. This is the old sayiing "if you are going to take a shot at the King you better not miss" situation. If the pressure is not effective then you have a problem in getting picked apart or QB running wild
Another problem seemed to be that we were poor on containment around the ends. Not sure if that was a scheme issue or a personnel issue.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 8:07 am
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:05 am to cajuntiger1010
A mobile QB is a Cheat Code. You always have to account for them and stay in your lane. Doing anything extra and you get burned.
Having Whit and Dottery in the middle should definitely help on the communication every play to ensure everyone is on the same page. But defending a pure Dual Threat is the hardest thing as a defense. Eyes need to be on the QB so makes it hard playing man unless you have a spy but then you're leaving a lot of your defenders 1-on-1.
Again, its why a true Dual Threat is a Cheat code in College Football.
Having Whit and Dottery in the middle should definitely help on the communication every play to ensure everyone is on the same page. But defending a pure Dual Threat is the hardest thing as a defense. Eyes need to be on the QB so makes it hard playing man unless you have a spy but then you're leaving a lot of your defenders 1-on-1.
Again, its why a true Dual Threat is a Cheat code in College Football.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:13 am to cajuntiger1010
quote:Chavis had a great plan for it actually, he lined the DEs a few yards wide of the OTs and had them pinch from the outside, taking away the QBs ability to shake the DE and get outside the pocket. Also was great for the jet sweep read options like Oregon's. Thus why someone like Danielle Hunter didn't have many sacks, because he wasn't lined up on the tackle like a pass rusher.
At least Chavis made it look quite easy, probably cause all of that talent back then
So Baker could be trying other things in that area. The way I remember it the past few years, when we had Perkins spy the QB they couldn't make any plays and then we would stop doing that and they'd go for a big scramble.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 8:13 am to itsbigmikey
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He needs to go back and watch how we beat Lamar, Manziel, etc.
Lamar, JFF, and Hurts had career low days vs LSU. I never heard anyone specifically discuss the strategy but even going back to Chavis LSU seemed to use a strategy to sucker or flush the QB into tacklers. For example, blitz from QB left, seal the middle, and flush runner into DE/OLB on opposite side.
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