Started By
Message

re: Why does Baker struggle with Mobile QBs?

Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:38 am to
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
14682 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:38 am to
quote:

White dude who came in from Florida was a prime example, he would always be close, but not get the sack

That Vandy game
Posted by Sheriff Brackett
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2024
437 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:47 am to
It’s been a major problem for him, and I don’t know why he hasn’t been able to fix it.

I think part of it is having elite defensive line play, which we haven’t had for quite some time, but that also falls on him to try and change scheme/mix up personnel.

The offense certainly didn’t do him any favors, but we were giving up TDs on the first and second drives of games and have made average players like Reed and Milroe look like Heisman contenders.

Reed only had two games of 70 yards rushing or more last year and one of them was against us.

In games against notable rushing QBs, (24 A&M and Bama, 25 Ole Miss, Vandy and A&M):

44 possessions
24 TDs
3 FGs
61% scoring percentage
In 4 of the 5 games, teams scored a TD on their first two possessions of the game (including when Reed entered the game in the 3rd quarter against A&M in 24).
Posted by Kajuntiger121110
Member since Aug 2020
1211 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:56 am to
Pretty sure Lane can help him with that, and going against a mobile qb every day in practice will help with that also
Posted by FriscoTiger
Frisco, TX
Member since Aug 2005
4886 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 10:57 am to
Because his defenses rely on blitzing to get pressure. He is also bad on 3rd and long (7+ yards) b/c we rush four and drop 7 with 3 or 4 of them 20 yards off the ball. The four we rush rarely get pressure and the QB eventually finds a guy open for 10-12 yards.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 9:51 pm
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
7628 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:06 am to
The point of a mobile quarterback is to make the other team's defensive coordinator struggle with containing them.
Posted by friendlyobservation
Member since Mar 2024
5458 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:18 am to
The year before Pavia had one of his worst games of the season against Baker's defense
Posted by Sheriff Brackett
St. Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2024
437 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:19 am to
This is a great observation. Is there anything more deflating than your defense giving up a first down on 3rd and long?

I’m hoping with some of the new additions on the defensive line that this will be a huge help.
Posted by Lsuray70443
Independence
Member since Dec 2025
1055 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:00 pm to
We left running lanes for the QB to exploit plus man coverage is bad vs running QB’s
Posted by RGT
Member since Aug 2024
2141 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:05 pm to
Lane had one of the best defensive teachers in his father.Im sure LK,a football junkie,picked his fathers brain throughout all his life about every phase of Deffense.Thats probably why he is so good at play calling.While knowledge is great ,you still need great players to execute your plays.LSUhasnt had the overall great players lately to be very stout in all phases of the defense.Lets see if the portal has brought us those kind of tigers.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64010 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:07 pm to
I’d completely forgotten that Monte is Lane’s dad.
Posted by Portcityblues
Member since Jan 2017
1752 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:30 pm to
Scheme, players being over aggressive and undisciplined and letting the QB escape the pocket. Remember Johnny football gave the great Nick Saban fits because it's very difficult to plan for the unknown of a broken play with a mobile QB. It drove Saban nuts because it was the type of play you could not perfectly plan and prepare for in practice. It was out of his control. Best thing is to rush them but hold contain and do a mush rush if you have to like the chief did to keep the QB in the pocket. Then at times with good coverage pocket will collapse and force sack. if not then you at least make them beat you consistently with their arms which you have more control over with your coverage schemes.
Posted by Jauquismos
Member since Jul 2023
1474 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 2:23 pm to
Break my arse. Kiffin was coaching in his twenties as a coordinator.
Posted by LSUCap
Member since Apr 2023
2277 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 2:45 pm to
I think this defense looks very different this year. Great talent with an actual offense makes a huge difference
Posted by Joe Bluecollar
16 feet above sea level
Member since Oct 2021
5 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 2:45 pm to
Beat me to it funny guy.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
14560 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

he was a liability fundamentally


How so? Be specific
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
62919 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

least Chavis made it look quite easy, probably cause all of that talent back then


Chavis never lost to Johnny Football, the main reason, he made a token rush, kept him in the pocket. A QB in the Pros must be able to throw from the pocket. That and his off the field, added to his downfall.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
62919 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 6:22 pm to
Sorry, saw your post after I posted mine, we both said much of the same.
Posted by CleanSlate
Member since Nov 2020
2317 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 7:29 pm to
quote:

This narrative that Baker struggles with mobile QB’s is bullshite. All coordinators struggle with them.


Sure, but we’ve been especially shitty against Marcel Reed compared to others
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25936 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 7:48 pm to
All defenses struggle with a good mobile QB.....you can slow em down, but you cant stop them.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
73030 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 7:49 pm to
Plays too much straight man where we have players turning their back to the QB or he’ll spy out of zone leaving a big hole in the middle of the zone. He’s great at everything else just needs to get that fixed.
This post was edited on 7/2/26 at 7:52 pm
first pageprev pagePage 4 of 5Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram