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re: What’s your biggest gripe with Alleva

Posted on 4/17/19 at 6:28 am to
Posted by tigerborderjumper
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 6:28 am to
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What’s your biggest gripe with Alleva



Alleva
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 7:02 am to
If you are willing to hire a convicted felon, you can get a yes man for way less than that.
Posted by CEOTiger
New Jersey
Member since Sep 2009
501 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 7:58 am to
Have met him personally several times. He's incredibly arrogant and self absorbed. Behind the mask, I think he is thin-skinned and lacks confidence. He's the perfect example of the Peter Principle...promoted way over his abilities.

We can do better!
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
12898 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 8:01 am to
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After watching Louisana's Kim Mulkey win another championship while we gave Nikki Fargas a contract extension instead of a kick out the door makes my blood boil. I hope the new AD has it in him to bring Mulkey home to LA.


That's the second thing I would do after hiring Jacksonville State's Ken Bodiford to take over the Department of Bands.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131362 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 8:02 am to
quote:

What’s your biggest gripe with Alleva
That LSU ever employed him. There is little or nothing of him to like as the LSU AD.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
32829 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 8:09 am to
his boss
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71473 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 9:47 am to
1a) the 2016 Miles debacle
1b) Will Wade fiasco this year

it's almost as if he hates this fan base.
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 9:48 am
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
21554 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:04 am to
There are really only two main gripes to have about Alleva, but they permeate everything he does:

1) Joe cannot understand or manage a media narrative. He consistently puts himself and the university on poor footing that makes us look incompetent and stupid in both the public sphere and in private dealings. This results in us constantly getting played by more sophisticated actors. See Jimmy Sexton or Jeremy Foley.

2) Joe does not understand/care who he works for. He wants to play the role of a 100% transparent AD who has no ties whatsoever to anything shady. Fact is, this is about goddamn college sports, not some federal agency in D.C. The fans expect Alleva to be somewhat defensive of the institution when there is enough plausible deniability to use. No one ever had their reputations ruined by saying "you know, I appreciate your questions, but this matter is tied into ongoing litigation and we will be working within that framework to resolve these issues. The time for comment will be later." Instead, Joe lights fires and then looks on in surprise as things start to burn. This pisses off the fan base, which wants to see him actually stick up for our coaches and players unless there is gross evidence of wrongdoing. Joe plays the virtuous disciplinarian instead of the competent defense attorney.

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Edit for Posterity: On this date, April Seventeenth in the Year of Our Lord 2019, one hour after I posted the above screed, news broke that Joe Alleva is expected to step down from the Athletic Director position at LSU. WE HAVE OVERCOME.
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 11:34 am
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:08 am to
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Spineless


Agreed but equally just as bad he lets the media guide his decisions
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
21554 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 10:24 am to
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Agreed but equally just as bad he lets the media guide his decisions



It's not even that he goes with the way the media wind is blowing, it's that he is often responsible for the wind itself. He makes idiotic moves, allowing the media to start speculating, and then swims in that sea. Think about the Florida game debacle. Here is what he should have said when all of that was brewing:

"Hurricanes are serious business, as Louisiana knows all too well. We are concerned with two things in the following order of importance: 1) ensuring the safety of all SEC student athletes and fans and 2) getting this important rivalry game played, regardless of venue. The Florida Gators are a force to be reckoned with in any stadium. For that reason, we propose the following alternatives to playing the game in Gainseville: List of stadiums x, y, and z. LSU plays anytime, anywhere and we know the Florida Gators to be no different. We are confident that their leadership will choose to put their side on the field in 8 days rather than forfeit the opportunity."

This would have set the narrative. ESPN headlines would have read: "LSU committed to playing in alternative venue; is Florida game?"

Instead, we somehow came out of the entire thing as the "bad guy" because Joe couldn't frame the issue. It still gobsmacks me to this day that we lost that PR battle. Stuff like that kills me.

The man cost Duke Lacrosse a national championship because a crazy whore made up false allegations. What if it had been Duke basketball? Does anyone think he would still be working?



This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 10:27 am
Posted by Sweltering Chill
Member since Aug 2017
2150 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:01 am to
As someone who is in the top 2% of TAF donors (#humblebrag), i have a lot of gripes with Alleva, almost all of them pertaining to football... it seems that LSU and our fans always get the short end of the stick with Alleva running things, starting with the fact that we should have gotten the hiring of either Jimbo Fisher or Tom Herman locked down, one of those should have been done deal.. i don’t think Orgeron has done a terrible job, but tbh LSU is better than that.. Then there’s the fact that we got totally bent over and penetrated in the Florida hurricane debacle.. how many times in a row have we played in Gainesville now, like 18 or 19 years?? Also, this year UT has allotted us, what, 3500 tickets for the game in Austin? I promise you that if Alleva were in charge next year, we would bend over again and give them 2 or 3 times the number of tickets they gave us.. there’s a lot more, but ultimately, i just think LSU can do better in terms of who we have in charge of the organization.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10350 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:01 am to
Public Relations
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 11:03 am
Posted by Fonzarelli
Dallas
Member since Jan 2015
3999 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:03 am to
My gripe: He changed the Wally Pontiff Classic Video.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
39995 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:04 am to
He seems to lose most of his battles with the SEC and other schools. Inability to sign top coaches to our school.

He is not a very good negotiator. See Fischer, miles debacle and the having the Florida game moved.
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10521 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:08 am to
I'm still mad that he apologized publicly to Nick Saban for drunk students chanting "F*** you Saban!".
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
35996 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:14 am to
gameday parking...
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:35 am to
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Joe Alleva won't put his job on the line for anything he really believes. He thinks Miles needs to go, but he won't stand by that call. Thinks Wade shouldn't be suspended, but won't fight F. King on that. And on, and on. It's never his fault, and it's always somebody else's call that he's saddled with - but that's because he's never willing to say "This is my best call, and if you don't like it then fire me."

In short, he's a yes man. And I don't need to pay a yes man 750K - I can get a yes man for 75K.


I think people can get carried away with criticism sometimes, but this is a perfect case detailed with facts and only a little emotion. And it cuts straight to the core of what was wrong with Alleva as an AD. Great post.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
25333 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:37 am to
That he’s waiting too damn long to resign...
Posted by TigerBert
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:38 am to
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Posted on 4/17/19 at 11:39 am to
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