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re: SEC must state this week what happens if LSU & Florida only play 7 conf games
Posted on 10/11/16 at 12:14 pm to Chicken
Posted on 10/11/16 at 12:14 pm to Chicken
I don't see the need personally. The best and cheapest course of action is to delay the decision for as long as possible. Do the work, say if you want to move the CG, but wait to see if it is necessary for as long as possible. Does it suck? Yes. Transparency is about your needs, not the SEC. It does not effect competitive play in any way.
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 12:16 pm to Lsupimp
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Uncertainty
He should know that they make the rules. To late to take a hard line now. He's right about one thing, it prolly wont get played.
The rooster (sanky) has crowed even if he is a little cock.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 12:19 pm to Indiana Tiger
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I don't see the need personally. The best and cheapest course of action is to delay the decision for as long as possible. Do the work, say if you want to move the CG, but wait to see if it is necessary for as long as possible. Does it suck? Yes. Transparency is about your needs, not the SEC. It does not effect competitive play in any way.
I disagree. I think it is owed to all fan bases and players to know what your attainable goals are for the season. Will it or should it effect the play on the field? Maybe not. But we should all know beforehand, whether we need Alabama to lose 2 games or not. And whether Tennessee needs Florida to lose another game or not.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 12:21 pm to Chicken
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Although the by-laws state that division winners are the teams with the highest winning %, the by-laws also state that each team will play 8 conference games.
Yeah these are blatantly contradictory. I was arguing with someone over why it was worded like that (regarding the percentage) and I figure it is an overlooked "loophole" from the times when ties were a thing.
It sets a dangerous precedent because if there is such a thing as a cancellation then why would a 7-0 Bama play a 6-1 Auburn to end the season? LSU should've "cancelled" all games after MS. State to end with a 100 percent conference record. etc.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 12:30 pm to Chicken
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the same reason we have rules to begin with...there is nothing in the rules about teams playing less than 8 conference games. They need to craft these rules NOW and not in late November...for transparency reasons.
agreed. Should be able to toss out win % and go with losses.
LSU 1 loss
Bama 1 loss
LSU holds tiebreaker
LSU west champs.
BOOM!
Posted on 10/11/16 at 12:31 pm to Fat Bastard
I don't think the word "must," means what you think it means.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 12:41 pm to Chicken
quote:They should, but I don't think they must.
SEC must state this week
Posted on 10/11/16 at 12:42 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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I think the more time passes without clarification of what the ruling is, the more likely they are going to stick with the wording "best winning percentage" and let it play out.
there's zero chance the SEC will do this and allow a division winner that didn't play all of its games (whether it was the team's fault or its opponents fault).
My opinion is if LSU or UF are still in the mix, the SEC will mandate that the game be played Nov. 19 and will figure out some form of reimbursement (or maybe insurance handles it) for the buyout we have to pay USA and Florida has to pay Presbyterian for cancelling those games on 11/19.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 12:45 pm to atltiger6487
They are gonna try to screw us in the end, and say due to.LSU not playing 8 conference games they are not eligible to play in the SEC CG. Watch!!
Posted on 10/11/16 at 12:47 pm to Chicken
SEC needs to only look at the loss column only when determining standings
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:06 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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True, BUT, the commissioner let them off the hook by postponing the game. No repercussions for them not cooperating. He can't make them forfeit, he can't just flat out say they aren't eligible to win the East.
Exactly. I'm not sure what those still clamoring for Florida to forfeit don't understand about this. The time for them to forfeit was last week. They escaped that, they are not going to retroactively make them forfeit. That's ridiculous. If anything, as bad as it sucks, LSU is much more likely to forfeit the game than Florida at this point as Alleva has dug his heels in about 11/19.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:11 pm to Indiana Tiger
quote:So you like the ol USGA Us Open approach I see
I don't see the need personally. The best and cheapest course of action is to delay the decision for as long as possible. Do the work, say if you want to move the CG, but wait to see if it is necessary for as long as possible. Does it suck? Yes. Transparency is about your needs, not the SEC. It does not effect competitive play in any way
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:17 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
quote:This. The head clucker's post illustrates the need for the media to hold Sankey accountable by actually asking him if/when LSU and Florida don't play what the ramifications will be. We need to find a way to get Gary Danielson on that.
To prove he can make a freaking decision and not get bailed out by waiting until it's a moot point.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 1:57 pm to el gato
I agree that the SEC has to provide a resolution this week. when additional games are played this weekend, and the landscape of the division champs changes, any decision to play/not play after this weekend will be inherently biased. The perception of Sankey, and his lack of integrity, will follow him around for a long time.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 2:38 pm to OchoDedos
You think Foley learned obfuscation from Miles? 
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:05 pm to Chicken
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Will they be eligible to win their divisions with one less conference game played than the other teams? Will Winning % be used or will some special determination be used to determine the division champions?
I Feel like the most likely case is just to make both LSU and UF ineligible.
The only option I have heard would be to look at only divisional records. I'm not sure if its possible with the way the records are now but you could potentially screw over another team by changing to divisional records for two schools that wind up not even being in contention.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:59 pm to Drakeo1990
It doesn't matter for us, no way in hell we end up with just one loss.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 5:29 pm to atltiger6487
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My opinion is if LSU or UF are still in the mix, the SEC will mandate that the game be played Nov. 19 and will figure out some form of reimbursement (or maybe insurance handles it) for the buyout we have to pay USA and Florida has to pay Presbyterian for cancelling those games on 11/19.
Would anybody like to guess how many lawyers would be scratching and gouging each others' eyes to be the first to file a class action suit on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of people who would be hurt by a unilateral decision to force LSU to give up a home game?
To name a few: hotels, restaurants, bars, RV parks, gas stations, grocery and C-stores and who-knows-how-many other retail businesses, waiters and bartenders who would lose tips, casinos, parish and state sales tax, state income tax...
That might be glorious to watch!
Posted on 10/11/16 at 5:40 pm to Chicken
Posted on 10/11/16 at 6:06 pm to Chicken
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Before another conference game is played by any team, the SEC must publicly state what happens if LSU and Florida only play seven conference games. Will they be eligible to win their divisions with one less conference game played than the other teams? Will Winning % be used or will some special determination be used to determine the division champions?
I completely agree with you. if the SEC remains silent (which I frankly expect) they are doing the same thing they did last week; NOTHING. they would be hoping they get lucky and all parties suffer two losses so they can postpone any decisions (or cancel them).
I think we selected the wrong comish.
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