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You're missing a game and it's an SEC opponent.


ETA: There's an @Ole Miss game. Probably doesn't make it harder.

re: Sherron Moore

Posted by Indiana Tiger on 12/10/25 at 8:04 pm to
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I remember this. Did LSU decide not to play in a bowl game or were there were no bowls available for them to attend? ND also possibly cost LSU the 1969 National Championship. That '69 defense was ferocious

According to Wiki, three bowls showed interest (Gator, Bluebonnet, and Peach). I remember the Peach invite, but not the others, but I have no reason to doubt it. The Peach turndown was somewhat understandable since we participated in the inaugural game the year before. So there was opportunity.

No one outside of LSU cared about this protest. It was an own goal. To the extent they punished anyone, it would have been a bowl game community that had nothing to do with this.

There is no way we would have gotten a national championship. First, we played an incredibly weak schedule. Only 3 teams had a winning record:

o We beat 8-2 AU by 1pt and then got beaten badly in their bowl game against Houston;

o We lost to 7-3 OM, but they went on to beat Ark in their bowl.

o We beat 6-4 AL by 5 pts and they went on to lost pretty badly to Colorado.

Everybody else had losing records and we didn't dominate anyone with a pulse.

We were ranked 8th in the AP after the last regular season game. In the Final AP, Penn State was #2 and undefeated and USC was #3 unbeaten and tied once. There is no way we would have jumped these teams to number 1.

LSU fans like to create a mythology that has no basis in fact--like Arnsparger recommending Archer so he could hire Spurrier or that T-Bob was the hero of the TN game fiasco. We should honor this team for what it actually accomplished and not make up bullshite.
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But out of nowhere Notre Dame decided to change their bowl policy and bumped LSU out of the Cotton Bowl. LSU decided to stay home and sit out bowls.

Yes, ND changed their policy, but they did not decide that LSU was out, the Cotton Bowl decided that LSU was out. Thought it was childish to sit out the bowl games--there were only 10 back then, so they were all significant. It was a stupid protest because nobody really gave a shite and LSU was only hurting itself. The players voted not to participate, but they were really only following the lead of a pissed off McClendon.
SEC has a requirement to schedule one P4 opponent. Who is willing to schedule us at this late date?
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That actually looks great, and I hate music biopics (i realize this is not one) and Sweet Caroline.

This really is a true story. I believe the primary source material is a 2008 documentary of the same name. It's available on YouTube. Don't know if it's a good idea to watch before the movie or not (I did), but here it is.




This is not a purely feel-good story. I don't know how much the movie goes into it, but I know they do, there is a freak tragic accident that spins the family out of control for a half decade or more.
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has the total number of recruits signed gone away with?

Due to the wild west of the transfer portal, the limit is basically just stay at 85 or under on the fall roster.
Baker doesn't have a decision to make until Tulane makes a decision to offer him. At this point he's the DC until he's not. It's not like he's sitting around mulling LSU vs Tulane. Is it effecting things? Yes. But until they fix the system, you just have to live with it.
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They have good reason to be salty. Their best chance to get their first natty was here one day and gone the next. They have been screwed. The recruiting and portal dates need to be adjusted.

Yes the system needs to be changed, but the best outcome for them was to let him coach.

1. There is no conflict of interest in coaching the team. LSU is not in the playoffs.

2. The conflict of interest is in roster management. Because their only leverage against Lane was him wanting to coach and Lane's leverage against LSU, they could have worked out an enforceable non-compete deal where we would not take current 26 committed recruits or current roster players in the transfer portal.

3. Without the non-compete, Lane's ethical duty is if it improves LSU then do it. I don't think Lane was threatening them; he was just explaining the facts of life. This is done all the time. Look at what Cignetti did to his former school. He's taking staff because he needs help now. If players can help, he will recruit them.

4. Yes, like a nasty divorce, this is distasteful, but it is the right thing to do for the kids.. The only legitimate reason for not letting him is the security issue, because them people are nuts.
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Isn't it that coaches can't contact players during the dead period, nor can they have official visits or in home visits. Recruits are free to reach out to coaches if they wish, and can be on campus if they choose though right??

During the dead period there can be no face-to-face contact, but they can communicate. Yesterday would have been the end of the quiet period where they can only have face-to-face contact on campus.
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How does an automatic escalator work if two different coaches have that in their contracts?

I know Kirby has one.

There can be only one. (at a time)
The number of people who must think that hiring Saban in 2000 was a massive mistake because he left after 5 years must be astounding.

This focus on will he stay or will he go is absurd.
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They better. This is the circus the ncaa created.

FWIW, the NCAA doesn't have anything to do with it. The FBS conferences along with ND created an organization to manage it--i.e. the College Football Playoff.
I don't know if he was just carrying water or if he believed this was the right thing to do. If the latter, he should be fired.

Saban told everyone what the right thing to do was. Do what's best for the players, and that is let Kiffin coach.

If they would have done this. they could have had an honest discussion and moved forward strategically.
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this was handled poorly by Kiffin and OM

OM is the problem, not Kiffin.
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How naive are you?


What's naive about it? It's actually ethical behavior. There's not a lot of overlap in recruiting and not taking transfers (for a year) is the way it should work.
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I don’t really know what people want OM to do differently

Act like an adult. Let him coach his players and in return a commitment not to recruit any high school commitments nor accept any transfers from the current roster. OM has behaved abysmally--not giving a single shite for the current team with their ego driven bullshite.

re: Saban Was 100% Right

Posted by Indiana Tiger on 11/30/25 at 9:49 am to
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I agree but then the regular season games need to be scrutinized and adjusted so that the top programs play all the top schools in the conference.

Can’t have teams sneak into playoff without a strength of schedule matching the other selected schools.

Maybe the group of 5 schools have play in games!

I guess my response is so what if it happens. The playoff is expanded by 4 teams. Teams like this will be seeded something like 13-16 and will have to play an away game at the 1-4 ranked team. If they happen to win, maybe they deserved to be there.

re: Saban Was 100% Right

Posted by Indiana Tiger on 11/30/25 at 9:06 am to
Get rid of the conference championship games, expand the playoffs to 16, and make it Championship December culminating with the championship game on January 1. Make New Year's Day great again. Start high school signing and the transfer portal about a week later.