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re: More criticism of Aranda
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:36 am to abellsujr
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:36 am to abellsujr
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Keep in mind we are also scheduling much harder opponents than teams like Alabama
Are we?
Bama has definitely had the benefit of running into their opening, neutral site Power 5 teams on down years, though when put on the schedule they were good/better (USC, Florida State, Louisville, Duke). So, those are their September P5 games in recent years.
Are the rest of their OOC games any different than LSU's, besides the fact that LSU is willing to give money to Louisiana teams whereas Bama doesn't play small Alabama schools?
LSU has had true road games against Power 5 teams, however, as well as a road "neutral site" game at Lambeau.
The issue has been LSU's slight dip in talent/depth at important positions, while playing a good or rising P5 opponent and the unfortunate burden of the stubborn, previous head coach, making for more competitive games. All the while Bama has bee good playing "big name" teams when those teams are down.
Now, Bama does get the favorable SEC draw in Tennessee the last decade-plus, and we all know how the "bridge schedule" treated them.
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 9:39 am
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Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:36 am to Todd O'Connor
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We were one of 3 teams to hold them under 30. The other two were the #1 and #2 scoring defenses in the country. Outside A&M we were a top 10 scoring defense. If you want to judge the quality of our defense last year it is probably more useful to look at 12/13 games and not 1 insane outlier. Yes the A&M game happened but and our average is what it is, but our defense was far more like to give up under 22 points in a game than more.
This was my original post:
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A less than stellar defensive performance in a win is not a bad thing. It allows the defense to re-focus and the coaches to make adjustments. Not a great analogy, but Bama offensively steamrolled everyone all season last year and the one game they struggled happened to be the NCG and they couldn't adjust. I think the adversity will make the D better going forward.
It was actually a positive statement about our D moving forward, but as usual tRant tends to go down the rabbit hole. Not directed at you. As you see it didn't even mention our D vs Bama last year. My point is Bama never faced adversity on that side of the ball until Clemson and they couldn't handle it.
So I still stand by my statement that our D will be the better for it.
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 9:47 am
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:37 am to Dlab2013
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Aranda is doing just fine.
2.5 Mill doesnt buy "Fine". we need Top 10 consistently.
He is the man to do it. He's young, and I believe in him. But he is not beyond criticism. Some of us have blinders on and think he is a God....me included until now. He has the personnel, just get it done.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:39 am to J2thaROC
there is a difference between getting beat because the other team has great man beaters /the qb is throwing dimes, and shitty scheme/ poor execution(coaching)/bad personnel (recruiting).
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 9:47 am
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:41 am to ThePaleHorse
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In Aranda's last 3 real games, teams have averaged 33 points on our D.
Texas--38
A&M---31---OT points not counted
UCF---32
In Aranda's last 3 real games, teams have averaged 33 points on our D.
Texas--38
A&M---31---OT points not counted
UCF---32
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 9:47 am
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:41 am to ThePaleHorse
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He has the personnel, just get it done.
LSU has true freshman corners playing a lot of meaningful snaps, including a starter. The defensive line is good, not great.
The Notion that this group is as talented as Bama, Clemson or Georgia is just flat out wrong.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:41 am to Skillet
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A&M---74
UCF---32
How many of those points were given up by the offense and how many were scored in regulation?
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:42 am to Skillet
Using the OT points vs. A&M to calculate an average over a small sample size is laughable.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:44 am to ThePaleHorse
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2.5 Mill doesnt buy "Fine". we need Top 10 consistently. He is the man to do it. He's young, and I believe in him. But he is not beyond criticism.
My entire point. Accepting 2.5 million dollars as the highest paid assistant in football comes with the expectation that you ARE the best assistant in football.
He will get better, but he’s not above reproach
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:44 am to Srobi14
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there is a difference between getting beat because the other team has great man beaters /the qb is throwing dimes, and shitty scheme and poor execution(coaching).
You’re right, which is why it’s so odd that you’re bashing Aranda. Ehlinger was absolutely on point in the 2nd half and Texas’ roster is stocked with blue chip talent, just like LSU’s is.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:46 am to BayouCowboy
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My point is Bama never faced adversity on that side of the ball until Clemson and they couldn't handle it.
What do you call a punt followed up with Tua's first INT of the year on consecutive drives, not to mention their lowest score at halftime of the year at that point? All while our offense did zilch.
They faced adversity that night, we just did nothing to take advantage.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:46 am to ThePaleHorse
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I just want our defense to be top tier , not just average
define top tier? Last year we were 26th nationally in points and yards allowed and keep in mind those include a 7 OT game. LINK In 2017 we were 14th in ppg and 12th in yards LINK
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What I dont get is why is he so protected from criticism, and expectation to get better and to be great.
most of the so called criticism is nothing but whining and Monday morning quarterbacking and as one poster admitted a reaction to criticism of O. several have said they wanted him to blitz Texas more which is hysterical given that TEXAS BLITZED on 3rd and 17 and we scored a 61 yard TD
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:47 am to Damone
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Using the OT points vs. A&M to calculate an average over a small sample size is laughable.
Fair enough about the avg, but the defense shite the bed that night. Couldnt stop A&M if they paid him 2.5 Mill.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:48 am to The Pirate King
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My entire point. Accepting 2.5 million dollars as the highest paid assistant in football comes with the expectation that you ARE the best assistant in football.
He will get better, but he’s not above reproach
Miss State finished 2nd in scoring defense last year.
is Shoop all of a sudden a better Coach than when he coached the 83rd scoring defense in 2017? Is he that much worse this year? They're ranked behind us and they have plated ULL and Southern Miss.
We were thin at CB and DL and then we lost 2 starters after the Alabama game at CB and DL.
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 9:49 am
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:48 am to ThePaleHorse
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but the defense shite the bed that night. Couldnt stop A&M if they paid him 2.5 Mill.
They stopped them many times. Someone should have told the officials.
Go back and look at the drive charts and tell me how the defense didn't stop them all night before OT.
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 9:53 am
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:50 am to LNCHBOX
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What do you call a punt followed up with Tua's first INT of the year on consecutive drives, not to mention their lowest score at halftime of the year at that point? All while our offense did zilch. They faced adversity that night, we just did nothing to take advantage
Come on man. You are holding up the Miss St game and LSU game as adversity. Those scores were 29-0 and 24-0. Is that really the hill you want to die on?
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:52 am to BayouCowboy
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Come on man. You are holding up the Miss St game and LSU game as adversity. Those scores were 29-0 and 24-0. Is that really the hill you want to die on?
We are talking about how or defense performed. Are you just not following?
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:52 am to ThePaleHorse
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Fair enough about the avg, but the defense shite the bed that night. Couldnt stop A&M if they paid him 2.5 Mill.
The defense scored the game tying TD and held aTM to field goals in 2 of the OTs, including the first OT after LSU’s offense lost 7 yards on 3 plays and kicked a FG.
They then held aTm to a Fg in the fourth OT giving the offense a chance to win it.
They then stopped the 2 point conversion to keep the game going in the 5th OT.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:53 am to H-Town Tiger
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define top tier?
Top 10 at least as we were in the past on a consistent basis.
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most of the so called criticism is nothing but whining and Monday morning quarterbacking
Agreed, but my criticism is real. I dont want him run out of town, but at least be in the Top 10 or Top 20 at the very least.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 9:53 am to RB10
Yes Texas did make some great plays no doubt but if you read my OP I lay out why I think the scheme sucked and execution was poor (eyes on QB and out of position players). Things are always complex and I always say you should just worry about things you can control but Aranda isn't doing the best with those things IMHO.
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