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re: In Depth Case for Freeze

Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:44 am to
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:44 am to
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Not saying he wouldn’t do great, but with the Title IX stuff there’s no way they would do it.

You can’t argue with children. All they see is a guy that once coached in the conference several years ago that beat Saban BEFORE he modernized his offense. What was Freeze’s record against Miles?
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155945 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:44 am to
I think the gay arse SEC commish would cockblock us from Freezus
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164354 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 12:49 am to
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All they see is a guy that once coached in the conference several years ago that beat Saban BEFORE he modernized his offense.

Kiffin was OC from 2014-2016. Saban modernized the offense in 2014 when he hired Kiffin. Freeze beat Alabama in 2014 and 2015.
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What was Freeze’s record against Miles?

2-2. He almost beat a much better LSU team in Tiger Stadium in 2012 with a horrible Ole Miss team. Then he beat a very good LSU team with an injury riddled team in 2013. Les got the better of him in 2014. Then Freeze whipped Les in 2015.
Posted by StadiumDormRat'72
BR,LA
Member since Sep 2012
2942 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 1:27 am to
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Could you imagine the national headlines if LSU hired Freeze? Talk about a PR nightmare.



Could you imagine the national headlines if PETA didn't want us to have a live mascot?

Could you imagine the headlines if our basketball coach was caught on FBI wiretap making a strong-arse offer? And Dick Vitale constantly bashed him?

Can you imagine the national headlines if we had a governor who was a womanizer and liked to fly to Vegas to gamble on weekends?

I am genuinely baffled by the disconnect between our totally in-your-face embrace and championing of our BB coach's scandal, our general irreverence when it comes to morality or political correctness, but yet we suddenly become church-ladies when discussing the sins of a football coach...???

I personally don't give a shite if a millionaire coach or athlete wants to blow some money on sex between consenting adults, and frankly a lot of you seem inordinately terrified of "Title IX", like it's a church inquisition---- if a prospective coach has some baggage in his past, yeah it bears scrutiny but should not be an automatic disqualifier---- I'm more suspicious of anyone in their 40s or 50s that DOESN'T ...

We thumb our noses at science over COVID, at PETA over Mike, at the NCAA over tPear, at PC thought over monuments and BLM, at liver-doctors over our bourbon consumption, we rail against Compliance over weed violations, but -

Our next FB coach has to be a church deacon? Let the "national press" make fun of us just like they hammered us over Les eating grass and how Ed talks and how we drink too much and whatever-the-hell else....

pick the best coach available.


Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68273 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 3:08 am to
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There are still alot of morons here who have no idea about what title 9 is or what the issues entail.


Title 9 is fedgov bullshite that is ironically being destroyed by the trans movement.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14875 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 5:07 am to
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Title 9 is fedgov bullshite


This! Should be repealed - and until then ignored.
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
6157 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 5:20 am to
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I just hate the hypocrisy of the mega church bible thumping hypocrites


Do you really believe these are the people making the call on LSU's next hire?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66893 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:00 am to
Do people really believe the escorts were for him?

Posted by coachw
Member since Jun 2017
1872 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 6:13 am to
Take Freeze!!
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24511 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 8:41 am to
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Kiffin was OC from 2014-2016. Saban modernized the offense in 2014 when he hired Kiffin. Freeze beat Alabama in 2014 and 2015.
before Saban’s RPO really took off then? We know by watching the LSU Bama game in 2015 it was still run heavy. Got it.

Here is the simple truth. Whores will stop the interview…
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7635 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 8:42 am to
Hell no !
Posted by LSU8675309
The Boot
Member since Nov 2016
257 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 8:56 am to
Agreed!
Posted by wesman21
Youngsville
Member since Jun 2009
2927 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 9:03 am to
I get the case for Freeze, but like almost everyone else that people are throwing out, do they want to be here?
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3373 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 9:10 am to
Wasn’t there also an issue with recruiting violations, specifically the year they got 5 of the top 10 players. I recall one player proclaiming that he got paid when he was selected on draft day.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19121 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 9:10 am to
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BUT HIS PERSONAL ISSUES? His recruiting violations are a non-issue now that NIL is here.

He had mutual sex with escorts. Wrong considering his Christian confessions? Yes. He's done his time.



He also had some nasty allegations regarding behavior around some young HS coeds when he was coaching HS. That came out in his dismissal at OM.

Also it was never linked but a lot of people suspected he was pulling escorts in for recruits.

Lastly, OM probably has so much dirt on him that any team in the SEC would be instantly f'd if they hired him...
This post was edited on 10/11/21 at 9:11 am
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6680 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 9:19 am to
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Do you really believe these are the people making the call on LSU's next hire?



My post wasn't clear.

I mean, I don't like coaches that are all preachy and Jesusy but only to get recruits like Urban, Dabo, Freeze, etc. and then are total scum in real life.

I don't want a coach that thinks he's Joel Olsteen.

Give me a straight up mercenary like Saban or someone that isn't a total hypocritical snake.

Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14596 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 9:20 am to
I'm not sure about head coach, but I don't see why we couldn't pull him in as OC. Especially if LSU hires a defensive minded coach.
Posted by Eauxld Geauxld
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2005
1190 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 9:20 am to
.....but, but, but his name doesn't end with a eaux sound. Can't we find anyone who can coach whose name end with an eaux sound? Huh?
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6680 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 9:21 am to
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For all these holier than thou people that don’t want a coach who made a mistake somewhere along the way . I just wonder how they would feel if people felt the same way about them and judged them like they do with these coaches. I guess one mistake and no forgiveness, no second chance. One and done forever.



People forgive mistakes. It's a lot harder when it's a guy that is all holier than thou preaching all the time but is secretly a total scumbag.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7196 posts
Posted on 10/11/21 at 9:25 am to
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Freeze is a no-brainer!!!


Yes, only those with no brains think LSU will hire a coach that resigned at another SEC school under NCAA investigation.

"Hugh Freeze dared people to email Ole Miss about NCAA violations "Hugh Freeze dared people to email Ole Miss about NCAA violations" and they did, some claim that was why the NCAA added a year to Ole Miss's probation.

Freeze used University phone to call escorts.

We initially attributed this call to a misdialed number. As part of our core values in running the athletics program, we have an obligation to do the right thing, so we proactively looked into the rest of his phone records," he explained. "In our analysis, we discovered a pattern of conduct that is not consistent with our expectations as the leader of our football program. As of yesterday, there appeared to be a concerning pattern."
Said athletic director Ross Bjork

Freeze admitted to the misconduct.

Had none of this happened I would take him, so would anyone. I get you would give him a chance, there's no way he's hired while LSU is still in a Title IX investigation.

This from a former student.
Katie Dalmasso, 27, told Peter of a time she was forced to change her shirt in front of Freeze. Dalmasso, an eighth-grade student at the time, was wearing a Grateful Dead t-shirt, and Freeze brought her into his office to inform her it violated school dress code because the shirt “represented drugs.”
“I said, ‘I’ll go change in the bathroom,’ and when I said that he said, ‘No, you’re going to change in here so I get the (Grateful Dead) shirt and you can’t have it back,’” she told Peter.

Yes it's stupid to think Freeze will be LSU's coach.
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