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re: Dale Brown...you think he gets all this praise that skip has been getting when he passes?
Posted on 8/19/26 at 3:15 pm to alterego55
Posted on 8/19/26 at 3:15 pm to alterego55
No way. Appreciate the 2 final four appearances, but the fact he couldn't do nothing but get a first round exit with Chris, Shaq, and Stanley speaks volumes. A freaking turd could have coached that team to a championship.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 3:18 pm to alterego55
No, Dale won't get the same level of praise Skip got.
It's a pretty simple situation;
Skip basically ushered in modern college baseball. He built LSU into a dynasty during the time the sport became nationally relevant. Not just LSU, but the entire SEC, and most Southern schools. It might have been played, but nobody paid attention until that time, and Skip was the man.
That's bigger than Dale, who "just" made LSU relevant in an already established sport. Honestly, bigger than Saban, who "only" elevated first LSU, and then pushed Alabama to elite status, in a similar, already popular football.
The closest thing to Skip might be Pat Summit, who elevated Tennessee women's basketball when the sport became popular nationally. But for womens basketball, it might be Leon Barmore at La Tech before her, or dude at UConn afterwards; Skip didn't really have anyone like that who surpassed him.
It's a pretty simple situation;
Skip basically ushered in modern college baseball. He built LSU into a dynasty during the time the sport became nationally relevant. Not just LSU, but the entire SEC, and most Southern schools. It might have been played, but nobody paid attention until that time, and Skip was the man.
That's bigger than Dale, who "just" made LSU relevant in an already established sport. Honestly, bigger than Saban, who "only" elevated first LSU, and then pushed Alabama to elite status, in a similar, already popular football.
The closest thing to Skip might be Pat Summit, who elevated Tennessee women's basketball when the sport became popular nationally. But for womens basketball, it might be Leon Barmore at La Tech before her, or dude at UConn afterwards; Skip didn't really have anyone like that who surpassed him.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 3:19 pm to WickedTiger
"Done so little".......Dale had Shaq, Stanley, C.Jackson & Vernal Singelton on the floor . Did not win the conference, in a season when UK was on probation & down ( for their program ). Vandy with Will Perdue....Will Perdue.....won the SEC that year.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 4:01 pm to Pedropatterstine
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But what they were in the 80s was phenomenal. They made 2 final fours, and were cheated (Bobby Knight) out of making a third. 1981 was loaded. 1986 went through rough times during the season due to illness, but definitely worthy of the final 4 they reached when they got healthy. The 1987 team was one for the ages.
All the teams they lost to in the tournament in their deep runs (79-81, 86-87) ended up the national champion
Even the 90 team everyone gets on Dale about for having Shaq, CJ, Stanley at the same time and not reaching the Final Four, they were still a 5-seed and lost to Lethal Weapon 3 Ga Tech in a close bout and that team made the Final Four.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 4:24 pm to ShockG3Pac
When I see people post bs like this I just laugh. They had 3 future NBA players on that Georgia Tech team and a couple were stars in the NBA. Shaq was also very raw back then and jackson couldn't guard me, although he was a great offensive player. It wasn't like they lost to some scrub team.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 4:26 pm to Keltic Tiger
Purdue was better than Shaq then....just like pretty boy from Duke. The NBA, not so much. Ga tech was loaded too.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 4:32 pm to JayVegas702
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No fricking way. Dale Brown is 1000 x more divisive than Skip.
And Skip won five championships. Dale won zero, and Dale got zero second places, which is about all he has in common with Skip.
This post was edited on 8/19/26 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 8/19/26 at 4:56 pm to Penrod
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And Skip won five championships. Dale won zero, and Dale got zero second places, which is about all he has in common with Skip.
Relative success aside, to the core of the question.....Dale ruffled a lot more feathers. He also did a lot for a lot of people and for that he will get much praise upon his passing from a great many people.
Skip ruffled a few feathers but not nearly as many as Dale. But no one is going to speak ill of them upon their death at least publicly.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:04 pm to tiger81
quote:I guess TWO Final Fours qualifies as "multiple"
multiple Final 4's.
But barely.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:07 pm to doubleb
Dale made LSU basketball relevant and generally successful. Not a powerhouse by any means.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:43 pm to mcspufftiger7
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He just wasn't the coach that Skip was
Yeah - Skip didn’t cheat, buy coaches to bring their players or pay-off players like John Williams and Chris Jackson.
Shaq might be the best player he ever signed ligit.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 7:51 pm to Tiger1988
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Skip didn’t cheat, buy coaches to bring their players or pay-off players like John Williams and Chris Jackson.
that sorry mf....how dare him do any of that in college basketball. That's not fair.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 7:54 pm to BRich
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I guess TWO Final Fours qualifies as "multiple"
But barely.
They were literally cheated out of the final 4 in 1987 with a team that had subpar talent. That would have made 3 final 4s in a period of 7 years. That's pretty darn impressive for even the blue bloods, much less a non.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 6:44 am to Pedropatterstine
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Who knows these days
Yeah, you may be right, nastiness has reached a new high these days and the lines get more and more blurred. The ease with which so many post so many mean spirited things here does bother me sometimes.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 7:32 am to alterego55
Which of Dale’s national championships was the most impressive?
Posted on 8/20/26 at 12:32 pm to Alt26
In Press Maravich's defense, the 1969-70 team, which was Pete's senior year, did go 22-10 and 13-5 in conference which was 2nd. that year. They would have gone to the NCAA tournament but in those days they only took conference champions.
But yes, overall Press's teams were a big disappointment. For a coach renowned as being great at X's and O's , he had awful teams. Mainly due to a lack of recruiting. Whether this was due to a lack of effort or he just had a bad personality I don't know but it was really bad players except for Pete, Danny Hester, Apple Sanders and maybe a couple of guards.
But yes, overall Press's teams were a big disappointment. For a coach renowned as being great at X's and O's , he had awful teams. Mainly due to a lack of recruiting. Whether this was due to a lack of effort or he just had a bad personality I don't know but it was really bad players except for Pete, Danny Hester, Apple Sanders and maybe a couple of guards.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 12:52 pm to Tom Bronco
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In Press Maravich's defense, the 1969-70 team, which was Pete's senior year, did go 22-10 and 13-5 in conference which was 2nd. that year. They would have gone to the NCAA tournament but in those days they only took conference champions.
But yes, overall Press's teams were a big disappointment. For a coach renowned as being great at X's and O's , he had awful teams.
Little known fact, LSU actually had a better record under Press the year immediately after Pete left than we did in two of the 3 years Pete played.
67-68 - 14-12/8-10
68-69 - 13-13/7-11
69-70 - 22-10/13-5
70-71 - 14-12/10-8
First three years are with Pete, the last the year after Pete left.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 6:35 pm to Pedropatterstine
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They were literally cheated out of the final 4 in 1987
That is true. The fact that Bobby Knight did NOT get a technical for slamming down a phone and going on a tirade at the scorer's table late in the game was a travesty.
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