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re: Auburn stuck with Pearl under fire, LSU fired Wade, hired a coach who can’t compete

Posted on 1/30/25 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 2:11 pm to
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Kinda hard to “stand by your coach” when he is refusing to communicate with you.
So Woody fired Wade because Wade wouldn’t talk to Alleva?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32153 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 2:21 pm to
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The wade apologists are unbelievable.
Dude made his own bed.


Without knowing the full story (none of us do) I don't think anyone can say LSU had no justifiable reason for firing Wade. However, that is a separate discussion from whether or not LSU should consider hiring him back. Hell, Arkansas fired Bobby Petrino after it found out in the wake of a motorcycle crash he lied to the school about diddling a staffer. That same guy was Arkansas's OC this year.

For the reasons stated above, LSU should consider rehiring Wade. Wade's sin was allegedly paying recruits and not being fully cooperative with the NCAA and LSU in an investigation about it (the guy who beat LSU last night committed the same sin...and the 200-300 or so Auburn fans in attendance last night don't seem to mind). Luckily, those sins are no longer a concern for the future given it is now mandatory coaches (through donors) pay players.

Wade's sanctions are over. LSU's sanctions are over. LSU fired Wade to avoid significant harm to the basketball program. In doing so, they unwillingly self imposed a de facto death penalty. Technically the program has existed for these past (nearly) three years....but very few really have much interest. Us basketball fans served our penalty too. Haven't we suffered enough!
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42889 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 2:23 pm to
The guy you’re responding to has basically said he’d rather lose than bring back Wade.

He’s missing a few marbles.
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
6134 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 2:27 pm to
wash, rinse, repeat. Between you and Drittz I don't know who is more of an emotional nut job.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32153 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 2:31 pm to
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I know that was Alleva. Same athletic department and BOS though. Kinda hard to “stand by your coach” when he is refusing to communicate with you


What if that coach is the reason you have the job in the first place?

Alleva suspended Wade for the last game of the 2018-2019 season and subsequent NCAA Tournament. That last game was supposed to be a celebration of LSU's 1st SEC championship in a decade..and it was...but that was only after the hate fest directed at Alleva all game long. It wasn't just the fans. Donors were pissed too.

A month later Alleva resigned and Woodward was hired. The timing wasn't a coincidence. He was forced out because his handling of Wade was the final straw for influential people. If Alleva doesn't suspend Wade there is no public hate fest in the PMAC. LSU goes to the NCAAT for the first time in 5 years and fans are happy. Alleva remains as AD. In the fall, LSU wins the National Championship in football with one of the greatest seasons ever seen...led by Alleva's controversial hire, Orgeron. All of Alleva's past sins with Miles are forgiven. He remains the AD and Woodward is eventually fired at A&M with their donors pissed about the huge buyout he saddled them with to get rid of Jimbo.

In short, without the love for Wade it is likely Woodward never becomes LSU's AD.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
59718 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 2:33 pm to
You do realize that all these posters you attack never make hyperbolic or “emotional” posts. Meanwhile every single post you make is laced with cursing, attacks and vitriol so basically you’re a hypocrite with zero self awareness.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15524 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 2:40 pm to
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One AD had balls, the other bent over for the NCAA like a good little boy.


The thing I've always found funny about this viewpoint is that while it's wrong, the truth still makes Woodward look bad. He didn't bend over for the NCAA, but he did use them as a reason to get rid of Wade, something he was aching to do from the beginning.
Posted by Zap Rowsdower
MissLou, La
Member since Sep 2010
14543 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 4:50 pm to
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Kansas coach did 100% more illegal activies and they also had the proof.


There’s a HUGE difference in Kansas basketball and LSU basketball. We’ll never know for sure but it stands to reason that the NCAA would have dropped the hammer on LSU and let Kansas skate. Doesn’t make it right but it’s happened before. Doesn’t help that the CBK media put CWW and LSU right in the middle of their crosshairs for nothing other than they dare encroach on the blue bloods.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17726 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 5:10 pm to
That’s exactly what happened. LSU made a panic move which wrecked the program. The rebound guy is mediocre at best.

I’ve completely stopped following LSU men’s basketball. It’s brutally frustrating. I was in the basketball band back in the 80’s and it was fantastic back then. Now it’s unwatchable.
Posted by NorthSider72
Indy
Member since Dec 2021
692 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 6:09 pm to
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LSU is not committed enough to MBB to hire anyone better than Wade, or even Wade. They are the Saints of MBB


God, you're such a pussy. So what's your answer Bonzo? Why don't we just shut it down? LSU will never a hire a coach because NO ONE will ever want to come here. My God we can't even afford to hire the crook WW. All is lost Chicken Little. I have no idea what this post is about. You off your meds? Just hate on the AD and every person on here stating facts.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42889 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:17 am to
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You do realize that all these posters you attack never make hyperbolic or “emotional” posts. Meanwhile every single post you make is laced with cursing, attacks and vitriol so basically you’re a hypocrite with zero self awareness
That dude isn’t the brightest of bulbs. Even before I ever interacted with him, his posts caught my eye. He was just attacking poster after poster with no real thought or argument. He didn’t like what they said so he would just name call. Go back in his post history a few months and you’ll see what I’m saying.

He’s another one that is more infatuated with anti-Wade, anti-poster ridiculousness than actually pro-basketball. Another one is tigerjump. They act as though post history doesn’t exist. They don’t actually comment or discuss. They jump in, do some name calling while bleeding all over the board then ignore any responses.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
69670 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:21 am to
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Except one had the FBI tracking phone calls and saw the money go between bank accounts, caught red handed, with his name on it, and the other didn't. Cope harder.


So what was his great big punishment again? He missed a few games?


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Posted on 1/30/25 at 2:21 pm to luciouslou
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The wade apologists are unbelievable.
Dude made his own bed.


Without knowing the full story (none of us do) I don't think anyone can say LSU had no justifiable reason for firing Wade. However, that is a separate discussion from whether or not LSU should consider hiring him back. Hell, Arkansas fired Bobby Petrino after it found out in the wake of a motorcycle crash he lied to the school about diddling a staffer. That same guy was Arkansas's OC this year.

For the reasons stated above, LSU should consider rehiring Wade. Wade's sin was allegedly paying recruits and not being fully cooperative with the NCAA and LSU in an investigation about it (the guy who beat LSU last night committed the same sin...and the 200-300 or so Auburn fans in attendance last night don't seem to mind). Luckily, those sins are no longer a concern for the future given it is now mandatory coaches (through donors) pay players.

Wade's sanctions are over. LSU's sanctions are over. LSU fired Wade to avoid significant harm to the basketball program. In doing so, they unwillingly self imposed a de facto death penalty. Technically the program has existed for these past (nearly) three years....but very few really have much interest. Us basketball fans served our penalty too. Haven't we suffered enough!


I agree.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 12:24 am
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
12056 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 12:59 am to
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Wade never achieved anything close to the post season success that Pearl has had.


Kinda disingenuous to say this since Alleva sat him during the postseason run of probably his best team.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59512 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:40 am to
While I think there is validity to your post, people need to be careful not to overstate Will Wade as a coach.

Pearl >>>> Wade
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21601 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 6:53 am to
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frick you and the high horse you rode in on. All those things are legal now a coach still may not pay a player.


Wade never paid a player. Nice try though.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:19 am to
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BilbeauTBaggins


Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16622 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:22 am to
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I know that was Alleva. Same athletic department and BOS though. Kinda hard to “stand by your coach” when he is refusing to communicate with you.



Did you know Pearl was not communicating with his bosses either when his stuff came up. My theory is Wade called Pearl for advice as he knew he had experienced something similar recently and Pearl advised him to do the same thing he did.
Posted by TeamLSU
Member since Feb 2009
3416 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:43 am to
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My theory is Wade called Pearl for advice as he knew he had experienced something similar recently and Pearl advised him to do the same thing he did.


This is correct. Wade even hired the same lawyer that represented Pearl against the NCAA.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:09 am to
Thanks we have never heard this before
Posted by lsupicker
Member since Oct 2015
1357 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:13 am to
Hindsight is as they say, 20\20
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