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re: All you that hate NIL, transfers, etc. how do you not see the hypocrisy you're displaying?

Posted on 12/15/21 at 7:48 pm to
Posted by caleb07
Member since Dec 2018
781 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 7:48 pm to
So getting an education means nothing anymore.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39859 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 8:05 pm to
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You can't depend on any of these kids
The portal has been around for several years. The vast majority of players stay put.

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Imagine being the coach and having to deal with this.
muh what the coaches have to deal with!

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Hate it for the kids who are loyal.
What does this even mean "loyal"? To whom? For how long? What about coaches' loyalty?

Posted by Bumble Bee
Northwest, La
Member since Jan 2011
894 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 8:07 pm to
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You want them to pay for an education that the NCAA/NFL is forcing on them in the 1st place. They are going to college because they can't go pro until after 3 yrs


1. The NCAA has nothing to do with when a player can join the NFL

2. The NFL has set their employment prerequisite and one being that you must be 3 years removed from your HS graduating class. If you don’t like that, take that up with the NFL, but they have every right, as a private organization, to require curtain things before employment. Just like every other business.

3. Kids are not forced to go to college. They can attempt to train and go other avenues. They just won’t get the exposure that they would in college. These kids voluntarily choose to go, then bitch about the rules that are in place.

Now, I have no issue with NIL. I do have an issue with Pay 4 Play. My student loan reflects these kids are getting paid, they just don’t value the opportunity of a free college education because they all believe they will be 15 year NFL Hall of Famers.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15432 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 8:10 pm to
You can hate the portal and still want it to work to the benefit of LSU. If we're going to have this piece of shite portal then we may as well make it work to our advantage.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81305 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 8:13 pm to
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So what are the players buyout costs???


However much their scholarship is worth since they are forgoing that by leaving.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
16613 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 8:35 pm to
I don’t care if I’m a hypocrite. I care about the institution of college football and the product on the field.
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
4572 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 8:43 pm to
Coaches salaries are going through the roof and get more money to be fired than most of us will see in a lifetime. Let them deal with the roster.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
17852 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 8:49 pm to
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All you that hate NIL, transfers, etc. how do you not see the hypocrisy you're displaying?


I have no problem with either in theory but the fact it is currently unregulated without much of a structure, has turned cfb into the Wild West.

NIL deals are great for the players, but it needs to be capped and there needs to be some sort of work shown to prove it actually was a NIL deal and not just a payment.

Transfers should always have a 1 year sit policy unless the player graduated or the HC leaves.
Posted by DarbonneTiger18
Member since Nov 2021
110 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 8:59 pm to
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quit with the "Get off my lawn, it'll ruin football takes"

shut the frick up you bitchmade nuthugger
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52216 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:03 pm to
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College Football has always been Minor League of the NFL. NFL and NCAA also came together to force football players to stay in college at least three years before going pro.

Not because of health, it's because of money for NCAA schools.




The NFL instituted that rule because 18, 19 and 20 year olds aren't physically ready to compete in the NFL.
Posted by ColdTurkey
Where the Buffalo roam...
Member since Nov 2019
7698 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:05 pm to
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So what are the players buyout costs??? Because coaches have consequences for leaving before the end of their commitment. What's the players consequence? It used to be sitting a year


shite this is a good point
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
19166 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:07 pm to
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True capitalism is like the MLB or english premier league where the player goes to the highest bidder.
True capitalism also leads to monopolies and trusts running the economy. Do you really want to monopolize college sports and let a select few dominate forever? That makes for a terrible sport.
Posted by DarbonneTiger18
Member since Nov 2021
110 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:16 pm to
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NFL and NCAA also came together to force football players to stay in college at least three years before going pro.

Not because of health, it's because of money for NCAA schools.

The kids are finally able to get paid off their likeness.

This is the dumbest thing I've read in my life. The NFL doesnt give a frick about colleges making money. NFL only cares about the NFL. The players are nothing without the fans and alumni bases that pay to watch their school play. Those people dont give a shite who the players are. There's no shortage of athletes that would kill to play big time CFB for nothing but a free education.
Posted by PaulsBunions
Member since Oct 2021
4257 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 1:55 am to
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There is nothing anti-capitalism about a private organization, the NCAA, having rules that promote parity.


What an idiot.

The ncaa has no right to tell a person what they can do with their name. Youre the kind of moron that would defend share cropping as free enterprise.
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1761 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 2:04 am to
why do we care who is a hyocrite. i like sports, not finding who is a hypocrite
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
11293 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 6:06 am to
There's a discussion to be had about players and their ability to profit compared to how much money CFB makes off them.

It's another thing to say that whatever CFB always was is being ruined. It doesn't feel like college football. Commitments mean nothing. They'll transfer as quickly and often as their hormones desire, so even signing is irrelevant. Kids may only play two years when they effectively declare for the draft their third years by quitting on the season and bowl game. NIL feels like Gronk advertising AAAA on TV, not kids playing ball for the fun of it for their home team.
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3666 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 6:34 am to
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Now, I have no issue with NIL. I do have an issue with Pay 4 Play. My student loan reflects these kids are getting paid, they just don’t value the opportunity of a free college education because they all believe they will be 15 year NFL Hall of Famers.


The requirements that an athlete pay for an education, while it's his services that the athletic program, and the NCAA is making millions from is ridiculous. And let's face it, pay for play (for certain guys) has and will exist be here and at other schools, with or without NIL.

Whether it's NFL or NCAA, guys are forced to go make money for a school, before they can make money for themselves. If the fact that player X's signing and playing for LSU, is going to help LSU make millions, tuition costs pales in comparison to the programs profit.

As to the OP, hypocrisy is not something that the hypocrite readily accepts.
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
4039 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 6:54 am to
Anything and everything that is fun, that many people enjoy, capitalism will eventually find a way in to ruin it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476848 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 6:55 am to
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So getting an education means nothing anymore.

a. When has an education been the focus for a football team?

b. If they're transferring to another school, are you arguing that new school won't offer educational services?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476848 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 6:56 am to
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Transfers should always have a 1 year sit policy unless the player graduated or the HC leaves.


Graduation has nothing, and I mean nothing, to do with football eligibility
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