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All you that hate NIL, transfers, etc. how do you not see the hypocrisy you're displaying?

Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:50 pm
Posted by LSUTiger2000
Member since Jul 2021
126 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:50 pm
How do you not see the hypocrisy in stating that people transferring out are quitters, yet we're psyched about our basketball team whose best player (Eason) and is a transfer (I'm sure Cincy thinks he's a quitter). It's the new reality - quit with the "Get off my lawn, it'll ruin football takes"

Let the free market reign and support the school. You can't call Notre Dame fans butthurt about Brian Kelly leaving before the bowl game with a chance at the CFP and then criticize our players who decide it's in their best interest to leave the program.

Happy trails to those that do, but move on and leave your whiny butthurtedness behind.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7629 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:52 pm to
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Let the free market reign and support the school. You can't call Notre Dame fans butthurt about Brian Kelly leaving before the bowl game with a chance at the CFP and then criticize our players who decide it's in their best interest to leave the program.



So what are the players buyout costs??? Because coaches have consequences for leaving before the end of their commitment. What's the players consequence? It used to be sitting a year
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:55 pm to
People who don’t support NIL, the transfer portal, etc. are not real capitalists. They think every team should get equal amounts of talent regardless of how much money they have. Sounds a whole lot like marxism to me!!
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:57 pm to
frick you all for ruining college football. Go watch the nfl if you want this shite
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23075 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:57 pm to
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So what are the players buyout costs??? Because coaches have consequences for leaving before the end of their commitment. What's the players consequence? It used to be sitting a year



1. Players only get a 1 time transfer w/o having to sit out.
2. Coaches usually don't pay that - their new employer does.
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6835 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:58 pm to
Can't blame the kids, but you have to admit the NIL will ruin college football without strict regulations. (example: Travis Hunter to Prime Time from Florida State his dream school. No hypocrisy here, I just hate to see the college game become the minor league for the NFL.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:58 pm to
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So what are the players buyout costs??? Because coaches have consequences for leaving before the end of their commitment. What's the players consequence? It used to be sitting a year

Considering some of these coaching contracts are more than what most NFL players make over the course of their career I don't mind them dealing with more consequences than college kids. And let's be honest, the coaches rarely face these consequences.
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:59 pm to
There's a big difference in some players transferring & others quitting.

Eason gets an opportunity to go play for a better program? Not a quitter. Joe Burrow graduates from Ohio St, competes for the job, & doesn't get to play? Not a quitter. Myles Brennan? Not a quitter

Quinn Ewers or Max Johnson? Quitters
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6835 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:06 pm to
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eople who don’t support NIL, the transfer portal, etc. are not real capitalists. They think every team should get equal amounts of talent regardless of how much money they have. Sounds a whole lot like marxism to me!!





For me, I used to say "oh good we have him for another year and we should be solid at that position".

Not anymore. You can't depend on any of these kids. Imagine being the coach and having to deal with this. It effects recruiting and the entire roster. Hate it for the kids who are loyal. It will also effect the game in the future from attendance, sales of merchandise etc. They should have come up with a way to pay the kids equally and focused more on educating them in my opinion. This is only going to get worst if they don't put a cap on what a player can earn. Similar to the NFL cap. Also with the transfer portal, they should have to sit out a year. This is BS. Coaches now have a difficult time managing a roster position by position.
Posted by LSUTiger2000
Member since Jul 2021
126 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:07 pm to
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Quinn Ewers or Max Johnson? Quitters


So you won’t be rooting for Brian Kelly either because he’s a quitter right? Just trying to keep tabs on the rationale. But sounds like the rationale is if it’s good for LSU, not a quitter … if it hurts LSU, quitter?

Also, should we not root for Tari Eason in basketball because he’s a “quitter” too?
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:07 pm to
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frick you all for ruining college football. Go watch the nfl if you want this shite


Pretty much this
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50346 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:09 pm to
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Pretty much this


It was ruined when they started paying coaches more in college than the NFL and having 9 figure TV contracts. You can't get to that sort of money and not let the players partake. NIL didn't ruin college sports its just a symptom of the mega cash grab that it has become.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28365 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:10 pm to
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Can't blame the kids, but you have to admit the NIL will ruin college football without strict regulations. (example: Travis Hunter to Prime Time from Florida State his dream school. No hypocrisy here, I just hate to see the college game become the minor league for the NFL.


It has long been the "minor league" for the NFL. The only difference is the payments are now "legal".

And why are we freaking out about ONE guy going to JSU? Look at the rest of the 5 star players. The same usual suspects are all there as their destinations. Alabama, Ohio St, Georgia, A&M, LSU, Texas, etc.

Just like in college basketball, the schools that care more are going to be the ones that "invest" more. Thus, most of the top talent still ends up at Alabama, Ohio St, Georgia, A&M, LSU, Texas, etc...just as it was before NIL
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26776 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:12 pm to
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People who don’t support NIL, the transfer portal, etc. are not real capitalists


This is bullshite. There is nothing anti-capitalism about a private organization, the NCAA, having rules that promote parity.

Anyone who equates anything to do with the NCAA and college athletics as "the free market" is a moron not worthy of debate.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56520 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:14 pm to
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Let the free market reign and support the school


I think a level playing field is much better for the product. The closer we get to determining success based on how much money there is to spend the less I enjoy the product.

This was very clear to me before this all began. My opinions have only become stronger as reality has set in.

To each their own though. If you like what you are seeing, more power to you.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:14 pm to
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This is only going to get worst if they don't put a cap on what a player can earn. Similar to the NFL cap.


Setting an artificial wage ceiling is a marxist concept.

True capitalism is like the MLB or english premier league where the player goes to the highest bidder.

Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:15 pm to
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should we not root for Tari Eason in basketball because he’s a “quitter” too?


I said in the same post that Tari Eason is not a quitter. That was an upgrade for him. Same goes for Brian Kelly. Some could try to argue this, but LSU was an upgrade for him from ND. He put in 11 yrs with that program, so it's hard to say he quit on them. That's probably reserved for other coaches like Kiffin.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11163 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:15 pm to
Its stupid. Get a minor league football league for this nonsense and keep college football as amateurs.

Its ruining the traditions and loyalty that made college football better than pro. Now it'll all be the same.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56520 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:15 pm to
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1. Players only get a 1 time transfer w/o having to sit out.



"Only"

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2. Coaches usually don't pay that - their new employer does.



The coaches are contractually obligated to pay it. You are drawing a distinction with no difference.
Posted by Geaux Guy
Member since Dec 2018
5305 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:16 pm to
Coaches have to think twice about yelling at the players. That is stupid...
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