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3 Facts about disputed play at home

Posted on 5/25/24 at 5:59 pm
Posted by Rmitch5474
Member since May 2024
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 5:59 pm
1) The catcher never stepped on the plate or in front of the plate before he caught the ball. 2) The runner completely stopped well short of the plate making no attempt to score. Thus, when catcher leaves the plate area to tag the runner, it becomes a rundown. Catcher tags runner out, 3) Even if it is a balk call or catcher’s interference, the runner still must touch home plate for the run to count. He went to the dugout after being tagged and never got close to the plate.
That’s all I’ve got except “Geaux Tigahs”!!!
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26578 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 5:59 pm to
MONSTER don’t care
Posted by liquid rabbit
Boxtard BPB®© emeritus
Member since Mar 2006
61224 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:01 pm to
You forgot the part about the batter stepping out of the box, thus receiving an automatic strike, which was then strike 3.
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
4917 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:01 pm to
Neil played that situation exactly the way it’s coached.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23757 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:01 pm to
4) The batter completely left the box before the pitch resulting in an automatic strike. Inning over before the play at home occurs.

Rule 6.02 (b)
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4418 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:02 pm to
How about they didn’t call it?

What did they do, meet in between innings and then try to remember to call something they didn’t call right in front of them when it happened ?
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
4917 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

You forgot the part about the batter stepping out of the box, thus receiving an automatic strike, which was then strike 3.


This is also true
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
8594 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:02 pm to
All of those are true. To overturn the damn call, the umpires needed to be at least reasonably sure. They obviously were not sure or they are just making shite up.
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
5132 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

3) Even if it is a balk call or catcher’s interference, the runner still must touch home plate for the run to count.

I do not claim to know the rule on this, but apparently if its reversed from out to safe and you awarded the base you do not have a touch home. I was surprised, but that was the explanation given.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
28082 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

How about they didn’t call it?

What did they do, meet in between innings and then try to remember to call something they didn’t call right in front of them when it happened ?
actually, USC's coach said in his postgane that he brought it up to the umps. So, he brought up a situation that isn't reviewable and then they changed the call based on him asking about it. So, even worse.
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4418 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:04 pm to
Good gracious those guys should be fired
Posted by HighRoller
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
4389 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

3) Even if it is a balk call or catcher’s interference, the runner still must touch home plate


They explained during the game he didn’t have to in that situation. All of your facts are null as soon as in their judgement Neal interfered.

I don’t agree with any of it but that’s what they explained.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9189 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:07 pm to
Was it a throw or a pitch? What makes it a throw or a pitch?
Posted by duckblind56
South of Ellick
Member since Sep 2023
1572 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:08 pm to
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Good gracious those guys should be fired


Should, but won't
Posted by hayden7cub
Mississippi
Member since Mar 2019
322 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:08 pm to
SEC - best baseball conference in the country with arguably the worst umpires. Makes no sense.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
41835 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:08 pm to
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All of those are true.

I don’t think so. The batter stepping out of the box, and the fact that the catcher did not step in front of the plate, are salient. The other ones are not. If it was a balk, no rundown ever happened. If it was a balk, then it was the umps’ fault that he didn’t touch home plate, so that doesn’t matter either. Perhaps the umps should have made him come out of the dugout, stand on third, then trot home, but it’s no big deal that they didn’t, IF it was a balk.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
8495 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

Even if it is a balk call or catcher’s interference, the runner still must touch home plate for the run to count. He went to the dugout after being tagged and never got close to the plate.


him being called out in "real time", then it being overturned after discussion removes this part from the rule, and he does not have to touch home.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
37703 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:10 pm to
I’m watching the replay as I was in mass but did they even call this part?? And why not if not??
Posted by Neilfish
Member since Jun 2006
2720 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:12 pm to
Add #4

If Neal would have just stayed and caught the pitched ball, being the batter exited his batters box, it would have been strike 3, that steal home doesn't factor
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
10665 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 6:12 pm to
The baseball gods evened out the frickup by the umpire and his crew.
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