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re: 3 Facts about disputed play at home

Posted on 5/25/24 at 8:23 pm to
Posted by Forever Tiger
Member since Dec 2023
27 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 8:23 pm to
It was the correct interpretation and application of the rule IF, and that’s a big IF, Neal was on or in front of the plate prior to receiving the ball. We all know he was not but in their collective thought, they thought he was. So it was a missed call via judgment not a misinterpretation of the rule. Even the head official refused to question the judgment live on the air with the announcers. He would only explain the rule cause he knew they had missed it judgment wise.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12658 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

Even if it is a balk call or catcher’s interference, the runner still must touch home plate for the run to count.

This is incorrect based on what they said
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31824 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 8:44 pm to
Actually in the case of a balk call, the runner is awarded the base. He need not actually touch it.

The whole thing was an awful call. Poor
Judgement and had no bearing on the play what so ever. Regardless of the rule, the unp should have let it
Go
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18274 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

The head of refs or whatever he is that was on TV said the runner didn't have to touch the base since he was awarded the tag up. I find that very suspect. If that's the case why would you have to touch all the bases on a homerun? And if that's the case then the runner on 3rd can just walk to the dugout when a balk is called.


They said that since the runner was originally called out and then reversed, he was awarded the run, and he did not have to touch hole plate
Posted by dovehunter
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
1265 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 9:07 pm to
This is exactly what happened. The SC coach set this up and one of the umps took the bait which is really corrupt. The umps inserted themselves into the game based on a sold assumption that in most cases like this a catcher would step across or on the plate to stop a play like this.

Now it’s ok to “game” the umpires but the assumptions made on this play were flawed and “oh, By the way the coach forgot to tell the batter not to back out of the box. Given the situation the coach got lucky and stole an illegitimate run. Thankfully in the end it didn’t work. Baseball Karma I guess..


Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23745 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

him being called out in "real time", then it being overturned after discussion removes this part from the rule, and he does not have to touch home.


Out of the whole bullshite deal, that’s the only thing it seems that the umps got right.
Posted by subidc
CharlestonSC
Member since Nov 2019
2953 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 9:13 pm to
Ball don’t lie. Monster called game!
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23745 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 9:17 pm to
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Neal went through the plate to catch. That's a balk. If the batter had swung. Even when he backs out it's still live. It sucks to get dicked on that call but it was correct.


Go back and watch the videos from different angles. He 100% DID NOT touch home plate or cross the plate before the ball arrived. One foot was even with the plate, but the head of umps said the catcher can have one foot out of the catcher’s box when a pitch arrives. Neal was good by the book man.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23745 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 9:19 pm to
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The ump signaled out in real time and let the players run off the field


This is being ignored and overlooked, but it’s absolutely the key point in the whole thing. If he didn’t initiate the discussion to overturn the call, then it’s all 100% bullshite. There’s no way anyone else could have seen if Neal touched or crossed home plate.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23745 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 9:20 pm to
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Too many people are misunderstanding Pitcher baulked...runner got home plate Catcher interfered...batter got 1st


You have no idea what you are talking about. Just stop. It’s not even worth explaining to you at this point.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40177 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

And IF it was a balk how does the batter get awarded first base?

I’m sorry. I wrote balk, but I meant interference.
Posted by 4EverATiger12345
Member since Sep 2014
133 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 2:45 am to
Rule 7 d. 1) d) gives an exception when a batter may step out with no penalty:

A defensive player attempts a play on a runner at ANY base.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
43650 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:31 am to
Monster is the baseball version of the honey badger
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6920 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:43 am to
Doesn't affect the play .......Just window dressing .....
Posted by WackyChris
Da Parish, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
2793 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:48 am to
quote:

SEC - best baseball conference in the country with arguably the worst umpires. Makes no sense.


it's the same way in football. best on-field product with the worst officiating.
at least the conference is consistent.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26914 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 7:57 am to
Milam’s big frick you to the SC coach and the umps helped me get over the bs call….

Now, if they lost, I would still be fuming….
Posted by extremelsu
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2013
3917 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 8:03 am to
How many times in history has a runner scored without touching the plate?
Posted by tygeray
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
747 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 8:13 am to
LINK

His toe was in front of plate. No way they saw that in real time.
This post was edited on 5/26/24 at 8:24 am
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10455 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 10:37 am to
The officiating is disgraceful.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10455 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 12:15 pm to
Their “process” for making the call was completely improper.
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