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What's a decent welder to buy if I wanted to teach myself welding?
Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:13 pm
I bought the cheapest mig welder from Harbor Freight and it's crap. Wire binds. Can't pull enough amps to weld well even with a 20 amp (115v) plug.
I want 240v likely thinking stick instead of mig. I can solder and brase but never tried to weld.
I have this 1960 Cadillac i ex going to fix but a tree fell on it. So now I want to cut off the front and rear and make couches out of them for my shop. I figure I'll practice on all the other metal. On the car.
Is there a decent brand or size? Won't be professional. Just something to tinker with.
Would like to be under$500.
I want 240v likely thinking stick instead of mig. I can solder and brase but never tried to weld.
I have this 1960 Cadillac i ex going to fix but a tree fell on it. So now I want to cut off the front and rear and make couches out of them for my shop. I figure I'll practice on all the other metal. On the car.
Is there a decent brand or size? Won't be professional. Just something to tinker with.
Would like to be under$500.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:41 pm to Napoleon
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I bought the cheapest mig welder from Harbor Freight and it's crap.
damn I came in here to recommend one of the lil green Titanium welders
Mine has been fine for light duty stuff.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 2:46 pm to Loup
I have a HF Titanium 200 MIG/TIG/Flux core and I have had zero issues with it. It's a 120/240V machine and I almost always run it on 240V. They have a new AC/DC multi-process unit that I will probably upgrade to. I run good consumables through mine though, I never bought HF wire or welding rods.
I've never done anything more than some gates, a bumper on a farm truck, and fixing some lawnmowers but nothing ever failed...
I've never done anything more than some gates, a bumper on a farm truck, and fixing some lawnmowers but nothing ever failed...
This post was edited on 7/7/26 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 7/7/26 at 4:42 pm to Napoleon
Stick welder can weld anything.
Did you have gas hooked up to that mig welder?
Posted on 7/7/26 at 5:47 pm to Shexter
Bought the 200amp Azzuno for a fence project cheap enough that i consider it disposable but it's still going hasn't given me any issues. I've got a tweco 210 amp for the garage.
210 amo Azzuno
210 amo Azzuno
Posted on 7/7/26 at 5:48 pm to Shexter
Do yourself a favor and take a welding course at a trade school. I took a couple courses at the Hammond trade school and it was well worth it.
This post was edited on 7/9/26 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 7/7/26 at 7:01 pm to Nawlens Gator
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Do yourself a favor and take a welding class at a trade school
Yep. I did the same years and years ago with a stick and oxy-acetylene welding class. The info on prep, health and safety and finishing different metals was invaluable.
Posted on 7/7/26 at 9:00 pm to Napoleon
When I was fresh out of welding school, I took a welding job with a company that was not a welding company, but needed someone to weld a lot of unistrut for them. This was the machine they provided me. 8-12 hours a day, sometimes 7 days a week, and it never missed a beat. If I had a need for a machine, I’d buy one of these for sure. You can find good deals on them on marketplace too.


Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:05 am to A_bear
I have one of those thats about 137 years old and still works great. A man can do a lot of work with one of those and a box of 6011 rods.
Far as a beginner rig, a $4000 multi process miller or lincon is a good option. They have exceptional resale value.
Far as a beginner rig, a $4000 multi process miller or lincon is a good option. They have exceptional resale value.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:23 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Far as a beginner rig, a $4000 multi process miller or lincon is a good option. They have exceptional resale value.
Not exactly "beginner" at $4,000 when an Esab Rebel is $2,000, Baker's has this whole package for $2,500 that is everything but the tank & gas. This would be the buy-once-cry-once option for the OP.
Esab Rebel 215 multi-process
Esab also has an inverter stick machine kit that can run on Dewalt FlexVolt batteries, that would be a little money-maker around here, lot of people asking about minor welding repairs.
This post was edited on 7/8/26 at 8:31 am
Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:52 am to Napoleon
That cheap rig you bought will indeed weld plenty well enough to handle the task you listed and more. Welding takes practice and then more practice. You won't automatically weld well with any rig right off the bat as a beginner. Some are of course easier than others;however,none are easy just starting out. I've owned one of the cheap rigs for years and I've had a lot of success with it. I find a MIG unit with gas is easier but that's not under 500,00.
I don't mean to be a jackass but I think your trouble is just inexperience. You can overcome that! Good luck!
I don't mean to be a jackass but I think your trouble is just inexperience. You can overcome that! Good luck!
Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:04 am to Napoleon
Where ya at OP? I have a Lotus (amazon chineesium special) tig/stick machine just sitting around doing nothing. Youd need to get shield gas and consumables for it but otherwise youre free to borrow it indefinitely if you want. It welds fine andI doubt i need it again for at least a year. Not great since it doesnt have some of the fancy features like a hot start but its good enough for burning rods and is a 110/220 machine.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:10 am to Clames
That was sarcastic. I dont think lincon and Miller are anywhere near worth the premium they command, even for most commercial applications. They are super nice to use but man the price is high high high.
This Hobart @ ~ $1,600 doesnt need much else for OP to learn how to do basically everything.
LINK
The little multiprocess machines are pretty great these days, and Hobart stuff is a really good value. Its pretty close to being a miller with a Grey paint job.
This Hobart @ ~ $1,600 doesnt need much else for OP to learn how to do basically everything.
LINK
The little multiprocess machines are pretty great these days, and Hobart stuff is a really good value. Its pretty close to being a miller with a Grey paint job.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:20 am to windmill
I can weld somewhat but the wire feed fails and I don't think it can weld the thicker 1960 metal I need to weld.
Posted on 7/10/26 at 3:02 pm to Clames
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Not exactly "beginner" at $4,000 when an Esab Rebel is $2,000, Baker's has this whole package for $2,500 . . .
I learned a long time ago not to try to save money on tools. If it is worth having a welder, it is worth having a good one. This recommendation is for a very good one but whether you need a welder like this depends on what you envision yourself making/repairing with it. Will it get a lot of use? What thickness metal do you need/want to weld? Will you be using it outside, inside a shop, both? Are you wired for 240 and, if not, are you willing to wire a 60 amp, 240 volt outlet for a welder? Do you want to fool with gas bottles? Do you need to haul it around and fix things on a farm? Do you want a particular process, i.e., Mig, Tig, Stick?
Nobody can really tell you what kind of welder you need without knowing these things and you will most likely buy the wrong one if you don't answer those questions for yourself.
All that said, a good quality, multi-process welder like that Esab isn't cheap. But it also retains a good resale value if you take care of it and you can take it (or a Lincoln or Miller) to your local welding supply store for a repair if anything goes wrong. Check with Harbor Freight to see what to do with a three-year-old welder that quits working (and let us know, because their welders look like a good deal). If you aren't sure about welding and are really just experimenting, a Hobart 140 mig welder is good choice that will work with a 120 outlet and let you stick together up to 3/16" steel.
Posted on 7/11/26 at 1:13 pm to Napoleon
The harbor freight stick welders are decent little welders
I just built this with nothing but a titanium stick welder and an angle grinder.
I would highly recommend changing out the stinger and the ground right off the bat though.
I just built this with nothing but a titanium stick welder and an angle grinder.
I would highly recommend changing out the stinger and the ground right off the bat though.
Posted on 7/11/26 at 10:02 pm to Napoleon
I started as a hobby welder with a lincoln 180 mig box using flux core wire. Did that for a year or so then got shielding gas and it is incredible what a difference 75/25 gas makes. You'll question why you fought flux core for any amount of time. Im comfortable welding up to quarter inch steel with the lincoln. My original interest was building furniture with 14 ga steel. Never realized how much id be welding in life 20 years later. I now have a miller engine drive welder that sits in my truck most of the time now.
If youre going to mostly be welding in a garage and in a controlled environment where 6 or 7 foot of lead is enough, a mig welder is easier to get a good aesthetic bead. If youre welding structural thicker steel in the elements further away from the welding unit, a stick welder is the way to go.
I dont know about harbor freight welders, but my welder has a feed wheel with a slot for .025 wire and a slot for .035 wire. If the machine is struggling to feed, check the feed wheel size with the wire size. Anymore I run .030 wire with a .035 tip and on the .025 feed wheel. Seems to be the happy medium for my welder.
If youre going to mostly be welding in a garage and in a controlled environment where 6 or 7 foot of lead is enough, a mig welder is easier to get a good aesthetic bead. If youre welding structural thicker steel in the elements further away from the welding unit, a stick welder is the way to go.
I dont know about harbor freight welders, but my welder has a feed wheel with a slot for .025 wire and a slot for .035 wire. If the machine is struggling to feed, check the feed wheel size with the wire size. Anymore I run .030 wire with a .035 tip and on the .025 feed wheel. Seems to be the happy medium for my welder.
Posted on 7/12/26 at 7:13 am to WhiskeyThrottle
Ill add that once you learn how to stick weld, using a good MIG setup is like using a glue gun. Not that stuck welding is horribly difficult but being decent at it makes you better at everything else.
Its also the most useful for general purpose repair work IMO.
Its also the most useful for general purpose repair work IMO.
Posted on 7/12/26 at 11:19 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Ill add that once you learn how to stick weld, using a good MIG setup is like using a glue gun. Not that stuck welding is horribly difficult but being decent at it makes you better at everything else. Its also the most useful for general purpose repair work IMO.
MiG welding feels like cheating these days. It’s pretty much all I use in the shop now. I got a stick rig for my house just because I didn’t want to fool with gas.
I can not wrap my head around TIG welding though. I’ve tried several times and I just can’t do it.
Posted on 7/12/26 at 4:01 pm to CottonWasKing
There’s always aluminum mig with the spool gun. Someone always needs an aluminum chingadera repaired.
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