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Any woodworkers out there that can tell me which pocket hole jig I should buy

Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15409 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:31 pm
There are a ton more options than I care to research. Is the one linked below acceptable for most applications, including shelf and furniture making? It's crazy how expensive these are.

Home Depot
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12755 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:48 pm to
I have a Kreg similar to that. It has worked fine when I needed pocket screws. All of them probably take a little getting used to if you've never used one, but after practicing 3-4 times on a scrap piece of wood I had the action down and went straight to mounting a shelf in a cabinet that turned out great. It is one of those tools that I rarely need, but when I do it is awesome.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12724 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:51 pm to
I use that exact jig in my shop, and it works great. Like TU Rob said, I would practice on some scrap wood first, but it's pretty easy to get the hang of.

Just make sure you secure the jig and wood to your workbench. I opted to use my bar Clamps instead of the kreg clamp, and they work just fine as long as I have it clamped solid and don't get overly forceful drilling the pocket holes.

ETA: as to your question on if it's suitable for cabinets and furniture--I personally think it would be fine as long as you select the appropriate screws and hole depth. I use it to make small boxes, and it works fine. I do, however, use an electric screwdriver to screw the pieces together because the included bit is too long to get into really tight spaces.
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15409 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:52 pm to
At that price, I figured I would just make one. After watching a few videos, it was a definite 'frick that'.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:55 pm to
Is there anything unique about their proprietary screws, or will standard wood screws work in most applications?
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2013
4212 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:07 pm to
IMO spend the money and get the bigger jig. I have it mounted on my work bench and it's insane how much time it cuts down vs that one you linked.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12755 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:07 pm to
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Is there anything unique about their proprietary screws, or will standard wood screws work in most applications?



Nah you can find similar screws. I bought some with a Torx head when the ones with my kit were all used up.
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
1676 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:09 pm to
you need the type of screw head they have. A tapered head doesn't work as it splits the wood under any force. And you'll want the square drive. There are other brands of that type of screw, but you won't really save money The long bit that comes in the kit is required due to the angle you drive the screw. I have that exact kit and use it when I need pocket holes.

However, don't over use pocket holes. They are not a strong wood joint. They are good for simple cabinet boxes and face frames. I've also used them for drawer boxes with false fronts. But as I got more into woodworking, I rarely use that jig.
Posted by TigerVizz87
Member since Dec 2021
164 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:10 pm to
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IMO spend the money and get the bigger jig.


I have the K5 and use it a lot.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15409 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:17 pm to
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However, don't over use pocket holes. They are not a strong wood joint. They are good for simple cabinet boxes and face frames. I've also used them for drawer boxes with false fronts


This would be the extend of what I am planning on using them for. I've been getting by in these situations by mostly using rabbet joints and wood glue, which is pain in the arse for several reasons.
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12724 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

However, don't over use pocket holes. They are not a strong wood joint. They are good for simple cabinet boxes and face frames.

What he said. It's basically a reinforced butt joint, which is the weakest joint you can use.

But they work great for those applications. And yes, you need specific screws for pocket joinery. Any ole screw isn't going to work.
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:44 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 3:47 pm
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5285 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:49 pm to
A Kreg as you’ve posted. You can always add to it as needed. I have the K3 kit and from what I gather they longer make this model. McFeely’s is a good source for numerous types of wood screws - order their catalog online.
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 5:11 pm
Posted by Unobtanium
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
1602 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

proprietary screws


McFeely's has a big selection, any woodworking equipment website will have them as well.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11532 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 4:59 pm to
I have a 720 pro and kind of wish I didn't get it. It works great to make pocket holes, I just find myself trying to NOT use pocket holes. I should have bought more clamps.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9649 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 6:39 pm to
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It works great to make pocket holes, I just find myself trying to NOT use pocket holes. 


I try to make as much stuff as I can with no metal fasteners. I used to use mine for most projects, but as I've gotten better and have more free time, I haven't used mine in at least 2-3 years.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3276 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:48 pm to
If you are going to actually build several things with pocket holes then get the 720 pro. The convenience of using it over the one you pictured is worth it.

Posted by nahtanojc
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
980 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:57 pm to
Do you have any other tools? Like a table saw or router table?

I have a kreg that works well, but as others have said, there are better ways out there.
For instance, a box joint jig for the router table. Gets the same job done but will end up with a much stronger joint.
Dovetails and half laps are good as well and can also be done with a router.

Of course if you don’t already have the other tools, the kreg is a great accessory to have
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1588 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 8:01 am to
i would get the $100 with the built in clamp.
I've used the one you showed and someone gifted me the $100 version. I'm glad I got that one now.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16479 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 8:20 am to
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IMO spend the money and get the bigger jig.


I agree 100%. If you are going to do more that one job using pocket holes, spring for a bigger/better jig. Thank me later.
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