Can we talk about pre-workout and even protein powder on this board?

I personally don’t disagree about the pre-workout. Some people like the feeling and that’s alright. I’ll take it every now and then.

I do typically need the protein supplements when I’m only having 2 meals per day.

But I get what you’re saying more of a want, not need in most cases.

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Kinda sounds like you're tell people to what they should or shouldn't take... or rather what they should or shouldn't do

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Do whatever you want, but you are wasting your money and in the case of pre-workout, nesting the biggest benefit to your body you can do, which is sleep.

To get caffeine to do 4x5 of bench press. I'm not trying to be a dick, a lot of people just don't know. They see shiny Instagram ads how this pre gets you shredded and take 300mg of caffeine at 5:30pm

sup Peck?

I used preworkout until about a year ago. I stopped after my gym hiatus when I had covid.

What I realized when I went back to the gym was that the preworkout did nothing for me as far as more energy or "focus" it was simply part of the routine.

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Big Ole Baw

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You’re one of the worst of the Q4 2021 accounts.

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You’re one of the worst of the Q4 2021 accounts.

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pretty much


Big Ole Baw, i agree that none of that is needed and I work out at night, so i dont use a preworkout, especially one with caffiene

but are you going to just ignore the benifits of the creatine and Beta Alinine in a PWO? because they both show tremendous performance, hypertrophy and significant cognitive benifits.

also most people dont get nearly enough protein, alteast talking average american. Protein powders are also a game changer when it comes to gaining muscle.

and no offense but you weigh like 150....i dont feel like you are in any position to start telling others, who carry more lean tissue then you weigh @ the same height, what to do or how to do things.

that would be like me telling a physique contestant that weighs 205 how to get lean. or telling a powerlifter with a 1500 total at 200 lbs how to get strong.......doesnt make a lot of sense to me.

plus dont you do crossfit? :lol:

I work out at 4 am so the pre workout gives me an extra boost. Also I enjoy the muscle pumps that come with it. For those that say pre workout does nothing for them I would question the pre they’re taking.

As far as protein powder, of course you can get enough protein from meat, but a good tasting protein shake (and not all of them are) can break of the monotony and be a bit a treat. But to each his own

I've been taking a preworkout for years. I look for the BCAAs and creatine, as well as the amount of caffeine included in it. I rather have it all in one scoop of preworkout instead of having to buy a jug of each.

Do I think preworkout is going to add 100lbs to my bench and give me a sick 8 pack abs? No, because I'm not an idiot. But the science behind BCAAs and creatine are there, and if my preworkout wants to throw some other shite in as well, then lets frickin go!

And when I was counting calories strictly, it was tough for me to hit my protein goals some days without a protein shake. Did I need it to hit the numbers every day? No. But it sure helps some of those days.

Everyone's body types and life styles are different, and for you to say what anyone else should or shouldn't be doing for their own fitness goals is asinine.

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If you are doing intermittent fasting, you most likely need to supplement with whey protein.

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What is the rationale here?

It’s dumb to lump preworkout all in one category. The key is to identify the ingredients you need and work with those. The ones I look for are caffeine (if needed), beta alanine, and creatine. All of those things with sleep and good diet/protein consumption can add value to your workouts on a daily basis. Good quality protein powder is a key for most people too since most people under eat protein.