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re: Surprising number of EV owners switch back to gas power, study says
Posted on 5/11/21 at 9:44 am to goofball
Posted on 5/11/21 at 9:44 am to goofball
Still tons of things inhibiting the usefulness of external charging vehicles, but 20% is probably lower than the percentage of people who change running shoes and then switch back to their old brand.
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Posted on 5/11/21 at 9:46 am to idlewatcher
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Seriously?
Yeah, I'm pretty dumb on electrical stuff. We have 2 outlets in our garage that are GFCI. I wanted a third one that didn't have GFCI and he said code states all garage outlets have to be GFCI. Wasn't sure if that had any effect on car charging outlets.
It's possible he just didn't want the work though.
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 9:47 am
Posted on 5/11/21 at 9:48 am to billjamin
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First and foremast, the push to WFH has eliminated commutes for many
It's eliminated garages for me. COVID office now. I guess if I wanted an EV I'd need a little shed next to my driveway.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 9:50 am to goofball
Good, gimme IC every single day of the week.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 9:57 am to USMEagles
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240V in a garage isn't kosher? Or is it the EV charging hardware that's the issue?
I always figured I could put 240V anywhere I wanted, as long as there's a roof and walls.
It's not the voltage or the receptacle that is a code issue, it has to do with "Battery Charging". There are special codes that deal with this beyond the actual 240V plug. Outside should not be an issue, inside, can be a an issue.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 9:57 am to AUCE05
quote:I'm not anti-EV. People make a lot of decisions on impulse and emotion without really thinking things through. So its not surprising that 20% of EV buyers go back to gasoline power after they realize how much of a hassle EV can be if you like to take longer road trips or live in an apartment/condo building or urban area without off street parking. It becomes a pain in the arse if you don't have a carport or garage to park and charge.
In to read anti-EV poster(s) try and prove their point based on 20%
Once they figure out how to power EV's with solar panels on the vehicle roof, most people will want one.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:08 am to OysterPoBoy
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That means sun power not gas, idiot.
I can't tell if you're being serious.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:10 am to Tiger Prawn
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Once they figure out how to power EV's with solar panels on the vehicle roof, most people will want one.
Lol, maybe if you live in California. Otherwise it's pretty stupid to leave it up to the weather to supply your car with enough energy for the day.
As of now, EV and anything climate related is a practice of the affluent.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:16 am to goofball
Makes me think about a city like Nola. No way you could have everyone with a vehicle charging at home. Just no room.
On the flip side, where you have more room out in the burbs you generally have to travel further distances regularly so EV doesn't make as much sense IMO.
On the flip side, where you have more room out in the burbs you generally have to travel further distances regularly so EV doesn't make as much sense IMO.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:19 am to OysterPoBoy
Lost of people missed this joke.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:23 am to tiggerthetooth
quote:Doesn't mean the battery can't also be plugged in to recharge. But solar charging, even if not perfect, alleviates the issues of having to stop for an hour every 3-4 hours of driving to recharge on road trips and should be sufficient for city dwellers without off street parking to get enough juice to run errands around town.
Lol, maybe if you live in California. Otherwise it's pretty stupid to leave it up to the weather to supply your car with enough energy for the day.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:26 am to goofball
Was in a tesla store two weeks ago. There was a line to purchase/lease their cars. They are fine
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:32 am to Tiger Prawn
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But solar charging, even if not perfect, alleviates the issues of having to stop for an hour every 3-4 hours of driving to recharge on road trips and should be sufficient for city dwellers without off street parking to get enough juice to run errands around town.
This is great for rich people. As I said, EVs are already something that are majority owned by affluent people. Add in solar panels and that makes it even less affordable for middle income or less. That would add at least $5k to the cost of the vehicle not to mention that solar panels would have to be replaced after 10 or so years, if not less given they're joined to a moving vehicle.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:41 am to Penrod
Parking deck at my old employer had to put locking covers on outlets, because people were plugging in their Priuses and Leafs. Literally had extension cords running to any outlet they could find, including into elevator lobby. There were maybe 2 charging stations in the entire parking deck. Back in the cash to clunker days, people were getting a Nissan Leaf for free, with the cash and tax rebates offered.
I'm imagining a 1000-unit apartment complex with extension cords running everywhere to trickle charge their cars, because there are 2 charging stations for the complex.
I'm imagining a 1000-unit apartment complex with extension cords running everywhere to trickle charge their cars, because there are 2 charging stations for the complex.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:24 am to The Spleen
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It's possible he just didn't want the work though.
More common than most know, electricians hate doing residential work outside of new construction.
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I wanted a third one that didn't have GFCI and he said code states all garage outlets have to be GFCI.
Yeah, he was bullshitting you to get out of the job. Nobody makes a 240V GFCI plug, what's used is a GFCI two-pole breaker which provides exactly the same protection. A 50A version runs about $100. A family friend has two Teslas with built-in 240V chargers on two walls of his garage, both with NEMA 14-50R outlets in the wall and 50A GFCI breakers in the main panel.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:39 am to concrete_tiger
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I'm imagining a 1000-unit apartment complex with extension cords running everywhere to trickle charge their cars, because there are 2 charging stations for the complex.
It would look like the power line poles in India.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:42 am to goofball
Was really excited about the Cybertruck until I saw a 250 mile range. I'm going to need at least 350.
I'd rather just buy a cheap Japanese gasoline pickup truck or keep my 4Runner around forever.
I'd rather just buy a cheap Japanese gasoline pickup truck or keep my 4Runner around forever.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:44 am to tiggerthetooth
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Is that a fact?
No. IMO it's partially true. There is abiogenic O&G. I mean Saturn's Titan moon atmosphere is methane and covered in methane seas. There were no plants and animals that gave rise to these hydrocarbons on Titan.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:44 am to Tiger Prawn
quote:It's only 18% in the study. 20% is for hybrids.
So its not surprising that 20% of EV buyers go back to gasoline power
Posted on 5/11/21 at 11:55 am to goofball
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it makes it a lot harder to enjoy the benefits associated with an EV, including an overall lower cost of ownership.
Until 3-5 years later and you have to replace the battery and any cost savings you had are now out the window.
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