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re: Depressing Small Southern Cities
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:01 pm to Pfft
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:01 pm to Pfft
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This is happening in Europe also
I've looked at some absolutely beautiful Spanish countryside houses. If I spoke Spanish and worked in IT (and I could get decent internet), I'd think about it seriously.
Look at this shite. Only 225k euro.
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Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:01 pm to 4Ghost
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Enterprise is a great little southern town.
I never got used to just driving along on a back road with trees on each side and having a random arse helicopter lift up out of nowhere beside me.
You eventually get to where you can block out the constant drone of choppers flying everywhere.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:02 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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Serious question - why are small towns in the south so much more likely to be shitty than small towns in the Midwest or New England?
There are dying towns AKA *shitholes* all over the country. IMO it is due to the proliferation of factory farming and the offshoring of good manufacturing jobs. Those two industries powered "flyover states" when the country was littered with small family farms and small towns on the RR lines that made everything we consumed in the US.
Anyway, for me some of the most depressing places I have been are in southern Colorado: Trinidad, Pueblo, South Fork, SIlverton, and to a slightly lesser extent, Durango. You can drive through that area and just feel the life force being drained from it. It bums me out because Colorado was always my ideal retirement destination...
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:06 pm to Lester Earl
quote:inm guessing you havent been to many small towns south of i10.
everyone north of I-10 in louisiana
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:07 pm to Salmon
I drive through Waycross, GA semi regularly and that describes it to a T. Any young folks who haven’t left for a bigger city are not the types I’d describe as having a great life trajectory.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:08 pm to stickly
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and to a slightly lesser extent, Durango
I liked what I saw of downtown Durango, honestly. Seemed pretty cool. Those towns along the way to Telluride can be pretty damn depressing, though.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:10 pm to stickly
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Anyway, for me some of the most depressing places I have been are in southern Colorado:
west Texas/East NM still wins for me
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:10 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Meridian, MS
Opelousas, LA
Opelousas, LA
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:11 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Interstate system is more responsible than anything
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:12 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Your constant pimping of Huntsville as some sort of southern mecca is odd, to say the least.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:18 pm to stickly
I’d say Athens, Alabama if it was stock, I’d buy.
It’ll get absorbed the growth that is going on in and around Huntsville. Now would be the time to purchase one of those dilapidated properties and flip it in a decade or so.
Now, the Blackbelt region of Alabama has been hit extremely hard. I live in Selma and it was once a Mayberry town full of wealth and plenty of educated people. Those.cotton days are over and we can’t even afford to have a Parks and Rec dept do simple upkeep and maintenance. They ask citizens to pitch in to mow the city beautiful old cemeteries. No city garbage pick up, beautiful old buildings downtown in disrepair overlooking the Alabama River and cotton district. I could go on and on. I have elderly family members here and we’ve been here for over 200 years. This is my home and hope to one day see a revitalization, I don’t care if it takes 40 years, I want to be here to see it. Nothing would make me more proud.
It’ll get absorbed the growth that is going on in and around Huntsville. Now would be the time to purchase one of those dilapidated properties and flip it in a decade or so.
Now, the Blackbelt region of Alabama has been hit extremely hard. I live in Selma and it was once a Mayberry town full of wealth and plenty of educated people. Those.cotton days are over and we can’t even afford to have a Parks and Rec dept do simple upkeep and maintenance. They ask citizens to pitch in to mow the city beautiful old cemeteries. No city garbage pick up, beautiful old buildings downtown in disrepair overlooking the Alabama River and cotton district. I could go on and on. I have elderly family members here and we’ve been here for over 200 years. This is my home and hope to one day see a revitalization, I don’t care if it takes 40 years, I want to be here to see it. Nothing would make me more proud.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:18 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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Serious question - why are small towns in the south so much more likely to be shitty than small towns in the Midwest or New England?
You've obviously lived a sheltered and ignorant life. There are parts of the midwest and New England every bit as shitty as the worst in the South. Go drive through Maine
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:22 pm to Clames
You obviously can’t read
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:24 pm to stickly
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the proliferation of factory farming
Please define this? How big do you think the avg farm size in the south is? What percentage of farms do you think are family owned?
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:25 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Now that we’ve discovered that a large portion of our workforce can work from home, I hope people move back to these small towns and help revitalize them
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:26 pm to Bourre
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Now that we’ve discovered that a large portion of our workforce can work from home, I hope people move back to these small towns and help revitalize them
I think the only initial draw will be COL. Otherwise, the amenities and entertainment you get from cities or well-to-do suburbs will be lacking until there is enough growth and wealth present.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:28 pm to IAmNERD
quote:Especially since he lives in the generic, spec house, strip mall mecca West of Huntsville.
Your constant pimping of Huntsville as some sort of southern mecca is odd, to say the least.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:32 pm to Midtiger farm
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Please define this? How big do you think the avg farm size in the south is? What percentage of farms do you think are family owned?
With technology the ability to farm larger pieces of land became possible with far fewer *human* resources. For instance, one man can now till, plant, and harvest 1000 acres with the right machinery. The result was that there were fewer and fewer small farms and more large operations that employed fewer people.
Secondarily, the per acre productivity of land was significantly increased through science and technology meaning that the amount of farmland required to be in production decreased.
The end was you have people who live in isolated pockets around the country without the ability to really compete or get ahead using their only asset; farmland and they cannot really escape either because their family land doesn't really have much value anymore.
Anyway, that's how you get parts of the country that are stuck in a downward spiral.
The economics are farming is a different thing than it was 50 years ago. How can a guy grow tomatoes in 2 acres of dirt better than a guy that has 2 acres of greenhouses growing hydroponic tomatoes?
Anyway, I guess I should have said *tech-enabled farming* or something...
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:34 pm to Midtiger farm
The issue is that from 1870 to 1965 the amount of manpower it took to plant and harvest a crop plummeted. Those towns were filled with workers for jobs that ceased to exist. However, the Industrial revolution often brought small-scale manufacturing to these towns, which were utterly destroyed by NAFTA. Farming supports fewer and fewer jobs with fewer additional sources of revenue for these hamlets. Of course they’re struggling. Throw in entitlements paying people not to work and not to move where there is work and you’re left with thousands of small towns with near zero economic activity beyond entitlement payments and using them to purchase basic necessities with dwindling populations and not enough tax base to support the municipal infrastructure.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:35 pm to WDE24
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Especially since he lives in the generic, spec house, strip mall mecca West of Huntsville.
Lol
The <0.25 acre tract homes are flying up in Athens. Madison is well established
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