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Here is the Oxford Dictionary definition of vaccine:

"A substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease."

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prepared from the causative agent of a disease,

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Yea. That kind of says what a vaccine has been forever until it was redefined to mean any shite that big pharma comes up with. So what's your point other than proving my point?

This is a dumb take. He took a retarded, sad, ineffectual republican party and gave them an identity. He is the literally the only reason that the rep party has any chance to fight against the bullshite artists on the left.

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I don't disagree with this. I simply support the vaccine, the one Trump pushed for and dems said wouldn't be available until this summer.

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I supported Trump in his foreign policy, but I don't think his interpretation of everything is important. For instance, his love of a vaccine that he fast-tracked is great politics but it means nothing to me because I am skeptical of an untested vaccine, HARD STOP.

I support what he thought on almost every level but that doesn't mean I'll just take whatever bullshite pharma craps out.

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You have no idea what you are talking about.

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No. I actually do. What the entire world is injecting into their bodies is still largely experimental and largely unnecessary for all but the oldest, frailest people. All facts.

I do appreciate your activism though. Nice job.

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Why are you shifting to the economy now?

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Stop being a goal-post moving bitch. Seriously, you should at least aspire to be better than that. You throw out anecdotal evidence and I pointed out that it is bullshite. One guy died but you demand that the rest of the world continue to suffer for no reason that makes any sense.

Here are the facts:
1/ Covid is a bad thing for people with comorbities.
2/ Being old is a comorbidity.
3/ Young people have almost zero risk from covid
4/ Our economy has been adversely effected by the corona panic and it is time to realize that the health of the *everyone* is more important. A healthy economy is more important than trying to save everyone. Facts.

BTW, if I get it and die than so be it. I understand that my life is not more important than maintaining a world where my kids have the opportunity to succeed. You know, like a man.

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Tell that to Luke Letlow and the 33,000 under 54 who have died from it. That dwarfs any suspected vaccine deaths.

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I don't know what stats you are quoting (I never do with these lobs over the fence) but if that is the stats in America then that equates to a death rate of 0.000103125 of total of an American population of 330M.

Seriously, people die. Stop destroying the world's economy for a rounding error.

BTW, nice anecdotal reference. Solid work.

I dig a Leinenkugel but that's a heavy beer. It's like eating a sandwich. Give me a watery light beer in the heat.

Good luck with this thread. I'm sure that everyone will agree.

JK, here come the pro-vaccine trolls...

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as I said, take none at all.

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Finally, we agree on something.

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Explain SPECIFICALLY what body system is "hijacked". You already swung and missed badly with "DNA". Try again with "hijacked".

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A completely untested injection- which is not based upon existing and tested vaccine technologies that utilize live/dead virus) is being inserted into millions of peoples bodies in the hope that it will make those people’s bodies fight COVID while hoping that it does not create problems that are actually worse than COVID.

Anyway, it’s just you and me at this point. Want to meet at sonic?

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... unless you are extrapolating all the way to the body's immune response induced by CV19 S protein, which you aren't.

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I am extrapolating all the way to the worst case scenario. If there was testing we would know but in lieu of that the worst case scenario is all any of us have to work with.

Now if there had been ANY testing at all I could be watching TV right now but instead I have to be the only person here using common sense.

Yea. Not *FALSE!*. Anyhoo,...

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That "particular threat" would be the SARS-CoV-2 or CV19 virus, correct?

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Yes, that is correct, what they are selling (Moderna, Pfizer, et al...) is a specific cure to a specific disease (covid 19, CoV-2, CV-19). So why is their *cure* so weak and ineffective in comparison to actual vaccines? A REAL vaccine does not need *boosters* every six months..

Anyway, the entire proposition of the pharma companies makes sense if they just say "btw, this not a real vaccine" but that's not what they are doing. What they are saying is that "we are experimenting on you and we have not figured out how any of this actually works yet. But just trust us...".

Yea. frick that. I worked in pharma long enough to know that the money is far more important than anything else.

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WTF is this idiotic "vaccines that are not vaccines" meme?

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A *vaccine* inserts a small amount of live virus in order to organically create antibodies that can then serve to proactively fight the real virus.

What the covid vaccines are doing is not that. They are experimental *pseudo vaccines* that are designed to integrate with your DNA to create resistance to a particular version of a particular threat. They have been fast-tracked, are totally experimental, have skipped every long term study that is typical in every other use-case (reproductive is particularly worrisome), and there is no accountability by the companies that have developed them. At all.

Better?

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Come back NC Tiger. Let's fight it out.

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WTF is this idiotic "vaccines that are not vaccines" meme?

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A *vaccine* inserts a small amount of live virus in order to organically create antibodies that can then serve to proactively fight the real virus.

What the covid vaccines are doing is not that. They are experimental *pseudo vaccines* that are designed to integrate with your DNA to create resistance to a particular version of a particular threat. They have been fast-tracked, are totally experimental, have skipped every long term study that is typical in every other use-case (reproductive is particularly worrisome), and there is no accountability by the companies that have developed them. At all.

Better?