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Where does Rickey's stolen base records rank on the can't be broken list?
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:57 pm
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:57 pm
Many of the "unbreakable" records have a very strong argument, but I don't see those records EVER being broken as the MLB doesn't value stolen bases like they once did.
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:17 am to cubsfan5150
Probably at around 10 in baseball alone more insulated than Rickey's 1406 IMO.
Joe D's 56 game hitting streak
Ryan's career Ks and No-hitters
Ripken's consecutive games
Cy Young's lifetime wins and complete games
Johnson's career shut out record
The career triple record (I can't remember the name I think it is Sam something)
Cobb's career batting average and William's career OBP.
Joe D's 56 game hitting streak
Ryan's career Ks and No-hitters
Ripken's consecutive games
Cy Young's lifetime wins and complete games
Johnson's career shut out record
The career triple record (I can't remember the name I think it is Sam something)
Cobb's career batting average and William's career OBP.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:44 am to Obtuse1
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Joe D's 56 game hitting streak Ryan's career Ks and No-hitters Ripken's consecutive games Cy Young's lifetime wins and complete games Johnson's career shut out record The career triple record (I can't remember the name I think it is Sam something) Cobb's career batting average and William's career OBP.
I honestly think that the 56 game hitting streak is more breakable than the stolen base records at this point
I agree on several of your inputs but I don't see one above the other for the most part.
Just take Nolan's strikeout record... If a great 20 year old in today's game showed up, like Kerry Wood and stayed healthy throughout his 22 year or so career career, it's unlikely but possible. Mainly just due to how they play the game now.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:54 am to cubsfan5150
Rickey played forever, Rickey was an exceptional base stealer, everyone tries to hit it long these days.
A few years ago Altuve led the league in base stealing with 38.
In 1982 Rickey led the league with 130.
A few years ago Altuve led the league in base stealing with 38.
In 1982 Rickey led the league with 130.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 12:55 am to cubsfan5150
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Many of the "unbreakable" records have a very strong argument, but I don't see those records EVER being broken as the MLB doesn't value stolen bases like they once did.
Never.
Pistol Pete...never!
Joe Burrow...never!
Chris Jackson...never!
Rickey should have went to LSU
Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:01 am to Obtuse1
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Joe D's 56 game hitting streak
Ryan's career Ks and No-hitters
Ripken's consecutive games
Cy Young's lifetime wins and complete games
Johnson's career shut out record
The career triple record (I can't remember the name I think it is Sam something)
Cobb's career batting average and William's career OBP
110 complete game shut-outs
Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:06 am to TigerintheNO
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110 complete game shut-outs
Walter Johnson also lost MLB record 65 complete games because his teams failed to score a run.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 2:08 am
Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:13 am to TigerintheNO
Shawn Green’s 19 total bases in one game is going to be a tougher record to break
Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:51 am to cubsfan5150
Rickey once stole 33 bases in one month.
That would've put him 1 shy of the AL Champ base stealer of 2017.
Once Rickey passed Brock and then blew him away, nobody's catching Rickey.
As Rickey said about Rickey, back then they taught base stealing...and Rickey talks to young players in the A's organization as he's employed in their Minor Leagues and Rickey says the young players tell Rickey they don't care about base stealing.
Just get a guy on base and hit it out of the Park.
It's sort of weird Rickey became the GOAT base stealer in the AL DH obsessed with HR league and not the small ball NL in the 80s.
That would've put him 1 shy of the AL Champ base stealer of 2017.
Once Rickey passed Brock and then blew him away, nobody's catching Rickey.
As Rickey said about Rickey, back then they taught base stealing...and Rickey talks to young players in the A's organization as he's employed in their Minor Leagues and Rickey says the young players tell Rickey they don't care about base stealing.
Just get a guy on base and hit it out of the Park.
It's sort of weird Rickey became the GOAT base stealer in the AL DH obsessed with HR league and not the small ball NL in the 80s.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 4:09 am to cubsfan5150
up there with gibsons 1.12 era
Posted on 6/16/20 at 4:16 am to cubsfan5150
quote:so someone is going to pitch for 22 years and average 260 strikeouts a season.... Justin Verlander is the closest we can use as he came up at 22 and is still 2708 away from Ryan.
Just take Nolan's strikeout record... If a great 20 year old in today's game showed up, like Kerry Wood and stayed healthy throughout his 22 year or so career career, it's unlikely but possible. Mainly just due to how they play the game now
We are seeing strikeouts increase in baseball but pitcher innings decrease as well. Last year only two players had 260+ strikeouts, the year before only 4, the year before 3, the year before that 1
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 4:36 am
Posted on 6/16/20 at 5:26 am to tduecen
Cy Young’s 511 wins. Win 25 games a year for 20 straight years and still fall 11 short! 
Posted on 6/16/20 at 5:29 am to cubsfan5150
High, but I still think Cobb's career batting average and Cy Young's career wins are the two most untouchable records. Neither of those will ever be even remotely threatened.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 5:30 am to cubsfan5150
CFB
Kevin Smith (RB) had 450 carries in one season back in 2007. Averaged almost 33 runs per game.
1995 Nebraska team didn’t allow a single sack all season. I think a Navy team from the 60s only allowed 8 all season. That will never happen again with how the game has evolved
Kevin Smith (RB) had 450 carries in one season back in 2007. Averaged almost 33 runs per game.
1995 Nebraska team didn’t allow a single sack all season. I think a Navy team from the 60s only allowed 8 all season. That will never happen again with how the game has evolved
Posted on 6/16/20 at 5:32 am to ClampClampington
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1995 Nebraska team didn’t allow a single sack all season. I think a Navy team from the 60s only allowed 8 all season. That will never happen again with how the game has evolved
Theoretically, a really good option team could pull this off.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 6:55 am to VADawg
George Blanda threw 42 picks in a season. No way a QB is ever getting that kind of latitude again.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 7:21 am to TigerintheNO
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Walter Johnson also lost MLB record 65 complete games because his teams failed to score a run.
Holy shite! That’s damn impressive
Posted on 6/16/20 at 7:27 am to TigerintheNO
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Walter Johnson also lost MLB record 65 complete games because his teams failed to score a run.
Reminds me of the old saying about the Senators that George Will quotes in Ken Burns' Baseball documentary. "Washington - first in war, first in peace, last in the American League."
Posted on 6/16/20 at 8:54 am to cubsfan5150
Hey, a baseball thread worth reading.
I agree on your point that we will never see anyone attempt enough steals to break that record, much less be safe every time.
Many of the other records mention fall under the same category.
Baseball translates better than most sports over time, but still can be apples and oranges.
I agree on your point that we will never see anyone attempt enough steals to break that record, much less be safe every time.
Many of the other records mention fall under the same category.
Baseball translates better than most sports over time, but still can be apples and oranges.
Posted on 6/16/20 at 9:13 am to cubsfan5150
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unbreakable
Up there with Pete Maravich college basketball scoring record.
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