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re: Do masks really work?

Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:53 am to
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20462 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:53 am to
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I just think some of y'all have some retarded takes
So in other words, you're here just to pick side fights and debate people on minor details because you're bored, even though you more than likely agree with us. Like usual.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:55 am to
How can you say this...

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facemasks are virtue signaling at best


When the research you quoted states this...

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Based on the RCTs, modestly protective against household infections when both infected and uninfected members wear facemasks. We expect RCTs to under-estimate the protective effect.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262628 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:55 am to
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So in other words, you're here just to pick side fights and debate people on minor details because you're bored, even though you more than likely agree with us. Like usual.



He's simply a contrarians. He's not here to give opinions, he's just her t shite on the opinion of others.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35251 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:55 am to
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Or, that info could have been fabricated and/or embellished by companies like 3M.
I’m not actually sure I’ve heard it argued in relation to masks as it has been presented more generally in regards to anything that increases/decreases exposure.

However, this is not something new though. Apparently during the Spanish Flu, those who contracted outside the home and brought it into the home, had far fewer fatalities than those who contacted inside the home as the viral exposure is naturally much greater within families and within the home.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:57 am to
The CDC should have required that no one wear a mask.

All the hardasses would have said, “No one is going to tell me that I can’t wear a mask! I’ll show you”.

That’s all this bickering is about.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20462 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:58 am to
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He's simply a contrarians. He's not here to give opinions, he's just her t shite on the opinion of others.

I know this. LUNCHBOX is the same way. They get off on picking side battles with others. Whatever, right?
Posted by Bryno1960
Off River Road
Member since Aug 2013
2537 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:59 am to
Why do some of you get so triggered and bothered about people wearing masks? Whether a person chooses to wear a mask or not, is it really any of your business?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85252 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:59 am to
You remember that they did that already back in March right?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:59 am to
Yes, anyone that dared to not share your opinion is obviously just a contrarian.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43311 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:59 am to
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It's like people are wanting to set the level of safety up a few notches higher right now, when we're on the tail end of this thing. It's a big time lag in response




We're adding preventative measures to prepare for ending shutdowns and re-opening
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84402 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:00 am to
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If you discount every study that has yet to be peer reviewed, you would still think covid has a 4% mortality rate. Is that the hill you want to die on?




I'm not the one using it to make a definitive claim, am I?
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2248 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:00 am to
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Cloth homemade masks... nope. They are just giving people a false sense of security

They barely stop dust and pollen, not sure why people believe they'd stop a virus
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20462 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:01 am to
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Yes, anyone that dared to not share your opinion is obviously just a contrarian.
No it's not that. It's the same fricking thing in every thread dude. You're a broken record. You like picking fights with people. Plain and simple. Don't get all hurt feelings now. You're a contrarian. Be proud of it and wear the crown.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84402 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:02 am to
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No it's not that. It's the same fricking thing in every thread dude. You're a broken record. You like picking fights with people. Plain and simple. Don't get all hurt feelings now. You're a contrarian. Be proud of it and wear the crown.




This is where you go when you can't respond to the criticisms of your opinion.

And what exactly am I being a contrarian about in this thread?
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 10:08 am
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2248 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:03 am to
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The CDC should have required that no one wear a mask.


LINK
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29465 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:06 am to
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Of course they do


No they really don’t. There’s a reason medical professionals are taught how to use PPE properly. And most people aren’t using masks properly, and likely are spreading more germs to their faces.
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Does washing your hands kill every bacteria and virus on your hands? No.

And that’s not why you are washing your hands, not to kill bacteria. You’re washing it away. Data is readily available that supports the reduction of bacteria by Hand washing. It’s the most effective way to prevent disease transmission.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43311 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:07 am to
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They barely stop dust and pollen, not sure why people believe they'd stop a virus


It won't totally stop the virus, but the virus is primarily spread through large droplets from sneezing, coughing, and talking. It will block those at least to a large degree.

You can argue that you won't cough, sneeze, or talk to people and that's fine, but on a population level people are nasty and will be sneezing, coughing, and talking. Yes the potential for spread is everywhere, which is where frequent hand washing and hand sanitizing becomes even more important.

The masks aren't an end-all be-all solution. They are part of a larger suite of preventative measures, each one kind of being like layers of Swiss cheese where fewest holes possible are lined up so spread is slowed. People are hung up on them and act like they're supposed to stop the virus all on their own, but that's never the design.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11019 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:08 am to
Wearing masks is now drawn around political lines. A sign of diligence and safety concern for some, American pride in not wearing one for others.

In other words we are officially in idiocracy.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 10:09 am
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20462 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:11 am to
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This is where you go when you can't respond to the criticisms of your opinion.

I absolutely can take criticisms of my opinion. I invite it. Sometimes I'm dead wrong. A lot of times I'm dead wrong. I want you to give me something else to think about. But that's not my point. My point is that I figured you (as a poster) out a long time ago.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41285 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:13 am to
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modestly protective against household infections


So it kinda works in ideal situations where the users are using it correctly. If you will read the CDC guidelines regarding cloth masks, they specifically state that they don't want the general public to use the M95 masks. Why? Because those actually work and they want them reserved for healthcare workers.

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