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re: Do masks really work?

Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:31 am to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:31 am to
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So we either have to do everything possible or literally nothing?
Of course not. Where did I say literally nothing? I’m a big proponent of washing hands. I’m a big proponent of the elderly and those with immune system problems isolating as much as possible. My point is why this and why now when it’s not necessary at all to protecting hospitals.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:33 am to
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Of course not. Where did I say literally nothing?


It's the logical conclusion to your questions of why we aren't requiring every little thing that may help.
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My point is why this and why now when it’s not necessary at all to protecting hospitals.





So we aren't allowed to learn as this goes on and change policy to reflect that?
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:33 am to
This is a question I have too. It's like people are wanting to set the level of safety up a few notches higher right now, when we're on the tail end of this thing. It's a big time lag in response.

We should have been demanding masks in public a month ago. Not now. It's too late now.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:34 am to
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urgical and n95 mask definitely work. The cloth nonsense people are wearing to stores and in their car do not work


People are very uninformed.

Talked to someone yesterday who made her own mask and sewed in a HEPA filter. She claimed it would stop her from acquiring da Rona. She had no idea that the "experts" who want you wear a mask, are saying this to keep YOU from passing it to someone else.
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:34 am to
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Cloth masks are what the CDC is recommending

That's a very important word. They know they don't work, that's why it's a recommendation. It's to make people feel like they're being proactive
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:34 am to
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It's too late now.


what?
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:35 am to
I bet she's one of those dumbasses who drives around wearing it too.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86738 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:35 am to
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That's a very important word. They know they don't work, that's why it's a recommendation. It's to make people feel like they're being proactive


or because the CDC cannot mandate such a thing

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:36 am to
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It's to make people feel


This is what its always been about.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 9:37 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:36 am to
This lawyer knows everything. It's best to not question him and his infinite knowledge
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6795 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:38 am to
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How do you know? Do you have a link to a study?
You are demanding a study, but don't provide one for the OP?

Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:38 am to
Not sure what you are getting at other than the majority of people don’t wash their hands properly. Besides, half the public wears a mask with their nose exposed.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:38 am to
Stop posting in Covid threads
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:38 am to
You read what I wrote. It's too late now to get all high and mighty and adamant about being safe now. Telling people they're being selfish by not wearing a mask, ratting businesses out, etc.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88462 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:39 am to
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It's the logical conclusion to your questions of why we aren't requiring every little thing that may help.
It was a rhetorical question based on the logic behind wearing the masks in the first place. Mandie thinks it’s a simple measure to protect those around you and if you don’t you’re being the most callous person imaginable. Well, other PPE and behaviors “work” too. If it protects just ONE person from getting it, that logic applies.

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So we aren't allowed to learn as this goes on and change policy to reflect that?
You ignored the point completely (which is how you always form arguments). What situation are we in now that requires any changes at all? What about simple washing hands more often and social distancing hasn’t worked? Do you not think we are ready for phase one?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
89412 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:39 am to
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You read what I wrote. It's too late now to get all high and mighty and adamant about being safe now. Telling people they're being selfish by not wearing a mask, ratting businesses out, etc.



This is just stupid
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15179 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:39 am to
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I bet she's one of those dumbasses who drives around wearing it too.

No, just when she goes to Home Depot.

She also was clueless why it's a bad idea for the government to keep printing money and UAB was the bad guy because they are laying off 300 people and reducing wages on the others. Her quote was, "Pretty shitty that they have you work thru a pandemic, and this is your reward." I guess she the thought of the alternative never crossed her mind.
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2248 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:40 am to
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or because the CDC cannot mandate such a thing

The CDC is very much influential in passing and regulating public health laws.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89412 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:41 am to
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It was a rhetorical question


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You ignored the point completely (which is how you always form arguments)

I don't think I ignored your point at all.
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What situation are we in now that requires any changes at all? What about simple washing hands more often and social distancing hasn’t worked? Do you not think we are ready for phase one?


On one hand you say we don't need to change and then say we need to change to phase 1? You can't have it both ways. Can policies change as the situation changes or not?
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:41 am to
Explain how it's stupid.
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