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re: Do masks really work?

Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:41 am to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:41 am to
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It's too late now to get all high and mighty and adamant about being safe now. Telling people they're being selfish by not wearing a mask, ratting businesses out, etc.



I'm sorry but this just doesn't make much sense. I don't know what your "its too late now" point means.

The people that are not wearing masks now most likely didn't take the SAH order very seriously.

The people being all "high and mighty" have been "high and mighty" from the beginning.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 9:42 am
Posted by WaydownSouth
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:43 am to
I bet you reported your neighbors for having 11 at their crawfish boil
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:43 am to
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The CDC is very much influential in passing and regulating public health laws.


Yes. Influential. In that they can recommend things.

They also recommend washing your hands.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:44 am to
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Do masks really work?


You're going to have to be more specific.

N95 hospital grade... well, 95% of the time they work, if they are fitted properly.

Cloth homemade masks... nope. They are just giving people a false sense of security and are quite possible dirties themselves than the air you'd be breathing in. Including germs from other people and cross contamination from everything you touch.

Washing your hands is far more effective than homemade cloth masks. Especially when it comes to protecting yourself.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:44 am to
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That's a very important word. They know they don't work, that's why it's a recommendation. It's to make people feel like they're being proactive


That makes so much sense. They recommend because they know it does not work. Sounds like you want the answer to be what you want it to be regardless of the reasoning. They have said that it is not perfect but reduces (i.e. not eliminates) the risk of passing on the virus.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:45 am to
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On one hand you say we don't need to change and then say we need to change to phase 1?
What? You are obviously confused.
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Can policies change as the situation changes or not?
Usually, things become less strict over time as the problem becomes less critical.
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:45 am to
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They also recommend washing your hands.

This actually works unlike wearing a cloth mask. Keep wearing yours if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, but just know it doesn't do a damn thing to protect you or people around you
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:45 am to
My neighbors didn't make a pathetic thread saying they were leaving and then immediately start posting again.
Posted by NOSHAU
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:46 am to
Where have you been?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:47 am to
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What? You are obviously confused.


I'm not.
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Usually, things become less strict over time as the problem becomes less critical.


That's the thing in dealing with a novel virus. This isn't a "usually" scenario.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:47 am to
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This actually works unlike wearing a cloth mask.


Then why is the CDC only recommending it? Be consistent.

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Keep wearing yours if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, but just know it doesn't do a damn thing to protect you or people around you



I haven't worn a mask and probably won't unless my employer forces me or if they stores I frequent mandate it

I just think some of y'all have some retarded takes to validate your reasons



This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 9:48 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:48 am to
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Based on the RCTs we would conclude that wearing facemasks can be very slightly protective against primary infection from casual community contact, and modestly protective against household infections when both infected and uninfected members wear facemasks. However, the RCTs often suffered from poor compliance and controls using facemasks. Across observational studies the evidence in favour of wearing facemasks was stronger. We expect RCTs to under-estimate the protective effect and observational studies to exaggerate it. The evidence is not sufficiently strong to support widespread use of facemasks as a protective measure against COVID-19. However, there is enough evidence to support the use of facemasks for short periods of time by particularly vulnerable individuals when in transient higher risk situations. Further high quality trials are needed to assess when wearing a facemask in the community is most likely to be protective.


Face Masks are Virtue Signalling at Best
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:48 am to
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Explain how it's stupid.


The idea of "too late" is comical
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:50 am to
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Face Masks are Virtue Signalling at Best



At the top of you link:
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This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.


Some of y'all
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:51 am to
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Virtue Signalling at Best


Bingo. It's a secular form of "holiness." Neo Puritanism.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:51 am to
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Washing your hands is far more effective than homemade cloth masks. Especially when it comes to protecting yourself.


Everyone is so sure that washing your hands is effective at stopping a respiratory virus and equally as sure that a mask doesn’t work. They have provided the same evidence for both.

There is some type of stigma from a mask that makes some people crazy
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88462 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:52 am to
If you discount every study that has yet to be peer reviewed, you would still think covid has a 4% mortality rate. Is that the hill you want to die on?
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:52 am to
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The idea of "too late" is comical
Thanks for elaborating in incredible detail.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:53 am to
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Use some common sense.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88462 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 9:53 am to
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effective at stopping a respiratory virus
Who said it would stop it?
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