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re: Do masks really work?
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:16 am to Aubie Spr96
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:16 am to Aubie Spr96
Oh it was obvious why the CDC recommended AGAINST using masks in the beginning. There was a PPE shortage and they didn’t want people using up what the hospitals needed.
Now they are recommending cloth masks to simply make people feel better.
Now they are recommending cloth masks to simply make people feel better.
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:19 am to Hulkklogan
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We're adding preventative measures to prepare for ending shutdowns and re-opening
So when a doctor is performing surgery on you, do they wait until they're about to sew you back up to put on all PPE? That's the point I'm trying to make. I guess better late than never with the masks, right?
Because you know, when we were at the apex and the highest spike, the notion was "masks are not available right now, but if you have one wear it". Now, that we're on the downward trend the notion is, "you're a mouth breathing idiot if you don't have a mask on!"
Just seems kind of backwards to me. I don't know, maybe LUNCHBOX and Salmon are right. Maybe I'm an idiot for thinking that way?
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:20 am to RealityTiger
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My point is that I figured you (as a poster) out a long time ago.
I hope you apply this logic to anyone that posts opinions here.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:20 am to WaWaWeeWa
Mask work when used properly. When not used properly, many are making things worse for themselves.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:20 am to RealityTiger
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Just seems kind of backwards to me. I don't know, maybe LUNCHBOX and Salmon are right. Maybe I'm an idiot for thinking that way?
Quick, call him a contrarian for not agreeing with you
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:23 am to LNCHBOX
Don't get all hurt feelings about it now. Like I said, you enjoy playing the role of the prick. Wear it with pride.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:23 am to RealityTiger
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know this. LUNCHBOX is the same way
But more tenacious, which makes for some fine entertainment.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:26 am to RealityTiger
Well at the time we were all supposed to be shut in our houses and not going anywhere, so masks wouldn't do as much, and they wanted to prevent a run on N95 masks which were already in short supply. I do get your point and think I agree somewhat, but it's really not a hill to die on.
Now that we're re-opening and people will be out and about more freely, masks do more for us as a preventative measure as we try to prevent the rapid spread we had initially.
Now that we're re-opening and people will be out and about more freely, masks do more for us as a preventative measure as we try to prevent the rapid spread we had initially.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 10:28 am
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:44 am to RealityTiger
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Don't get all hurt feelings about it now. Like I said, you enjoy playing the role of the prick. Wear it with pride.
By your same logic you're just a contrarian to me since we don't agree. That's dumb
Posted on 5/5/20 at 10:58 am to Hulkklogan
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and they wanted to prevent a run on N95 masks which were already in short supply.
Yes, because N95 masks work. Well, 95% of the time. They are also intended to be disposed of after single use... hospitals are working on ways to safely sanitize and reuse them. If a hospital worker wore the same N95 for weeks at a time, it wouldn't be nearly as effective either.
Homemade cloth masks... you're just wearing a germ rag. Unless you have multiple masks, change them out every time you touch your mask with a contaminated hand or go somewhere new, and then wash them all before reuse. I'd be surprised if 1% of the people out there are doing that properly.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
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He's simply a contrarians. He's not here to give opinions, he's just her t shite on the opinion of others.
I literally gave my opinion in my first post in this thread.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:15 am to WaydownSouth
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2) Shopper wears mask, shopper then touches things in the grocery store, shopper then adjusts masks because its hot and he/she is sweating. Mask is now contaminated and basically useless
I’m anti masks for the healthy, but touching shite is not how this thing spreads. So touching doesn’t matter. Unless you are grabbing your tongue and then sticking your hand down someone’s throat they aren’t going to get sick from touching something after you.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:16 am to LSUBoo
Can't speak to everyone but we have a bunch of masks and don't re-use them without cleaning them.
And it depends on your goal.. nobody is claiming that cloth masks will prevent you from getting infected but they are supposed to help prevent spread via large droplets since that's the primary transmission mode of this virus. Will you touching the mask then touching other things spread the virus? Yes, but that seems to be less infectious for this virus than people coughing, sneezing, and breathing on each other.
And it depends on your goal.. nobody is claiming that cloth masks will prevent you from getting infected but they are supposed to help prevent spread via large droplets since that's the primary transmission mode of this virus. Will you touching the mask then touching other things spread the virus? Yes, but that seems to be less infectious for this virus than people coughing, sneezing, and breathing on each other.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 11:21 am
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:21 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Wiping your arse doesn’t get 100% of the shite off so why bother?
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:28 am to Bryno1960
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Why do some of you get so triggered and bothered about people wearing masks? Whether a person chooses to wear a mask or not, is it really any of your business?
I don’t care who wears a mask. I’m just trying to figure out why the recommendation of a mask for a respiratory virus causes all this backlash and then mental gymnastics to get to the theory that masks don’t work
If the CDC fricking lied about masks working to conserve masks for hospitals (widely accepted here) that should tell you all you need to know about their effectiveness.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:30 am to WaWaWeeWa
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If the CDC fricking lied about masks working to conserve masks for hospitals (widely accepted here) that should tell you all you need to know about their effectiveness.
that was about medical grade masks
nobody in the medical field is wearing a mask made out of an old t-shirt
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:34 am to elprez00
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No they really don’t. There’s a reason medical professionals are taught how to use PPE properly.
So is it ok if your surgeon doesn’t wear a surgical mask when operating on your open abdomen?
For the 1 millionth time...
They don’t stop you from getting infected
They do stop how much you spread the virus even when you are asymptomatic.
That’s why a surgeon wears a surgical mask when operating even if he isn’t coughing or sneezing. The act of breathing projects bacteria and viruses out of your mouth and nose. If you have a mask on most of it will be directed into the mask and not the surgical field, or in this case someone you are talking to very closely.
The problem is most people here don’t even have a basic understanding of germ theory
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:36 am to Salmon
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nobody in the medical field is wearing a mask made out of an old t-shirt
There is nothing magical about a “medical grade” surgical mask. It’s a cheap barrier meant for a single use. It doesn’t filter air.
N95s are different.
This post was edited on 5/5/20 at 11:37 am
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:37 am to Salmon
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common sense tells me that if I'm not coughing, sneezing, or even talking to anyone, there is really no value in a mask
Sure masks do nothing. Firefighters, automotive painters, chem labs, pesticide and fumigation require respirators for their placebo effect.
And I'm sure Putin is wearing a hazmat suit and respirator so that he doesn't infect others
Seriously, are you that stupid?
Respirators and Hazmat suits are intended to protect the wearer.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:38 am to WaWaWeeWa
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. It’s a cheap barrier meant for a single use. It doesn’t filter air.
I'm aware. But it is certainly a finer material and limits more particles from spreading.
Not to mention better fitting.
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