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This sham of a closed hearing would be similar to this...
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:07 am
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:07 am
A court case where only the prosecution is present, without a jury or defense team, to hear testimony and question those subpoenaed. The prosecution then releases only the bits and pieces of the testimonies, probably taken out of context, to the jury that 100% supports their narrative, while completely withholding all testimony that does not.
Does this sound about right?
Does this sound about right?
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 9:08 am
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:12 am to LSUAlum2001
Sounds like justice under authoritarian regimes
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:15 am to LSUAlum2001
I'll add that because there was no vote, the prosecution can levy the charges, investigate the charges, try and convict with no semblance of a defense or judge/jury. There are also NO rules defined for witnesses, so the prosecution can change rules on a whim, deny them counsel, badger, etc...
IDGAF what any dem on here tries to tell you. This is a disgraceful sham and makes this nation's government look like fricking Uganda.
IDGAF what any dem on here tries to tell you. This is a disgraceful sham and makes this nation's government look like fricking Uganda.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:16 am to LSUAlum2001
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Does this sound about right?
Sounds... Russian.
Guess we need another investigation into Schiff's Ruskie ties.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:17 am to Vacherie Saint
And, they have absolutely ZERO issue with that.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:18 am to LSUAlum2001
Republicans are in the room, aren't they?
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:21 am to Bourre
Sounds like the FISA Court.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:23 am to LSUAlum2001
"Grand Jury" bro
but it's weird that Congress is dividing this up by party. i just don't see how the "open", "transparent", or "democratic" people can support this
could you imagine if the GOP did something like this to Obama? if they did Benghazi behind closed doors without any DEM input or ability for DEMs to leak?
but it's weird that Congress is dividing this up by party. i just don't see how the "open", "transparent", or "democratic" people can support this
could you imagine if the GOP did something like this to Obama? if they did Benghazi behind closed doors without any DEM input or ability for DEMs to leak?
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:24 am to LSUAlum2001
Fascism at it's finest.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:24 am to FtHuntTiger
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Republicans are in the room, aren't they?
There have been mixed reports as to whether or not Republicans are allowed to attend the "depositions".
Either way, they definitely are not allowed to participate and ask questions. Shiff has come out and made that part clear.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:25 am to LSUAlum2001
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A court case where only the prosecution is present, without a jury or defense team, to hear testimony and question those subpoenaed. The prosecution then releases only the bits and pieces of the testimonies, probably taken out of context, to the jury that 100% supports their narrative, while completely withholding all testimony that does not.
Does this sound about right?
A District Attorney's office does an investigation. The defense is not involved at that point. The DA's investigation involves interviewing witnesses. This is done to determine if there is enough evidence to prosecute.
Once formal charges are made (articles of impeachment), both sides then get to be involved in interviews, depositions, etc.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:25 am to FtHuntTiger
Republicans are not allowed to view any of the material without a member of shit4brains staff being present.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:25 am to Mickey Goldmill
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A District Attorney's office does an investigation. The defense is not involved at that point.
The entire body of Congress is the DAs office in this analogy
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:25 am to Weekend Warrior79
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There have been mixed reports as to whether or not Republicans are allowed to attend the "depositions".
Either way, they definitely are not allowed to participate and ask questions. Shiff has come out and made that part clear.
They are in there and allowed to ask questions. They are just not allowed to have the transcripts.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:26 am to FtHuntTiger
This is not a true impeachment inquiry. It is just propaganda. Schiff declassifies/releases anything he wants. Releasing anything else would be a crime.
The msm does their dutiful Democrat assigned job of broadcasting it to the masses. This is solely done to hurt trump in the court of public opinion.
So that is the whole purpose of the thing. And sadly they are winning it.
When the Democrats write the narrative it is difficult for the common person to see much beyond that.
The msm does their dutiful Democrat assigned job of broadcasting it to the masses. This is solely done to hurt trump in the court of public opinion.
So that is the whole purpose of the thing. And sadly they are winning it.
When the Democrats write the narrative it is difficult for the common person to see much beyond that.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:27 am to SCwTiger
I like to have fun with Liberals and just take anything happening today and simply sub out the word Trump with the word Obama...ask them how fair it would be for President Obama to be subject to this, and they can't give you an answer.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:27 am to Vacherie Saint
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I'll add that because there was no vote, the prosecution can levy the charges, investigate the charges, try and convict with no semblance of a defense or judge/jury. There are also NO rules defined for witnesses, so the prosecution can change rules on a whim, deny them counsel, badger, etc...
IDGAF what any dem on here tries to tell you. This is a disgraceful sham and makes this nation's government look like fricking Uganda.
What are you talking about here? How has anyone levied charges, tried, or convicted anyone? Or how do you propose they will do that?
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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The entire body of Congress is the DAs office in this analogy
No, the house committees in charge of the impeachment inquiry are. The Senate has nothing at all to do with it at this stage. The Senate ultimately is just the jury.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:29 am to Janky
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They are in there and allowed to ask questions. They are just not allowed to have the transcripts.
This is the worst part. They hide behind their quorum in the HIC to defend this sham, and them they blow that argument sky high when they restrict their own members on party lines.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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A District Attorney's office does an investigation. The defense is not involved at that point.
The entire body of Congress is the DAs office in this analogy
Right. The notion that there should ever be some secret investigative committee in Congress to "act as the DA" for impeachment purposes is completely without precedent or any constitutional backing.
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