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re: This sham of a closed hearing would be similar to this...
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:42 am to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:42 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Those members who don't wish to push article of impeachment have no role as prosecutors in this scenario.
holy
fricking
shite
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:43 am to Janky
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Are you trying to say the whole house does not have to vote on the actual impeachment?
Not at all. I'm saying the rules involving the investigation are entirely up to the House Rules. A full house vote is always required to recommend formal charges of impeachment.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:43 am to Y.A. Tittle
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I don't disagree with this at all, but what they are doing is still without any historical precedent whatsoever and, I would argue, is probably not a precedent we really want to establish.
again
the next Benghazi will be lit, fam, and i better not hear any DEMs trying to say it's improper procedure
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:43 am to Janky
If that's what it takes...
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:43 am to Y.A. Tittle
I can't wait until the GOP takes the House again.
The Democrats will regret the precedent that this sets.
Paybacks are a bitch. The next DEM President will be impeached from day one.
The Democrats will regret the precedent that this sets.
Paybacks are a bitch. The next DEM President will be impeached from day one.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:43 am to Mickey Goldmill
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He can only be impeached by a full house vote.
Then frick it, lets roll. Full house vote yes or no on impeachment. We all know they don't have the votes.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:44 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Lol the House makes it own rules for impeachment bud.
where are these rules written that one party gets to keep the other one out of the process?
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:45 am to Janky
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Then frick it, lets roll. Full house vote yes or no on impeachment. We all know they don't have the votes.
Patience
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:45 am to Mickey Goldmill
A quorum of the house must authorize the committees to conduct the impeachment inquiry first Mickey, as is required by the quorum clause of the constitution. pimpin my threadz
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:45 am to Y.A. Tittle
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I don't disagree with this at all, but what they are doing is still without any historical precedent whatsoever and, I would argue, is probably not a precedent we really want to establish.
I don’t disagree with you either. I don’t have a problem with the closed sessions at the beginning to pin witness testimony down to make sure everyone doesn’t know what everyone else is saying.
That’s just for the beginning though. They really need to bring the witnesses they feel are key out into public hearings. They aren’t required to, but I feel having an impeachment vote after only closed door hearings would look really bad and be political malpractice.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:46 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Patience
frick you and your patience. Lets vote. We all know it will be political suicide for many of the dems coming up in 2020.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:46 am to LSU2ALA
There is no problem with my argument. Precedent for this is set. The House votes on the impeachment inquiry so that rules for the handling and protection of witnesses can be set. Without this, you get the partisan shite show that we have now.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:46 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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The entire body of Congress is the DAs office in this analogy
In his analogy, the DA office would first target the people they didn't like, then only include other people in the DAs office that also don't like the person being investigated, then try to find a crime while leaking negative information on the person being investigated to media institutions that also don't like the person being investigated.
This is what Democrats are defending.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:49 am to LSU2ALA
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I don’t disagree with you either. I don’t have a problem with the closed sessions at the beginning to pin witness testimony down to make sure everyone doesn’t know what everyone else is saying.
That’s just for the beginning though. They really need to bring the witnesses they feel are key out into public hearings. They aren’t required to, but I feel having an impeachment vote after only closed door hearings would look really bad and be political malpractice.
That's not why these witnesses are being kept secret and transcripts are being held from Republicans and you know it. They want to be able to filter and control the spin. Also, they are calling witnesses who didn't witness anything. Its that simple.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:50 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Broad powers....
You are ao disingenuous.
We'll see if your tune changes when all this closed door garbage is used against you and I'll be here to say don't worry about the constitution.
Broad powers.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:52 am to roadGator
The word "reconciliation" comes to mind.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:52 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Do y'all think that every single rule is outlawing line by line in the constitution? Broad powers....
this is uncharted territory. a precedent
you have to live with this when the roles are reversed. remember that.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:53 am to LSU2ALA
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They really need to bring the witnesses they feel are key out into public hearings. They aren’t required to, but I feel having an impeachment vote after only closed door hearings would look really bad and be political malpractice.
I agree with this. I think the current process is going on because the Congressional Dems believe DOJ should've opened an investigation on the whistleblower complaint, but because they didn't, they're operating in a two-step fashion where they're using professional staff counsel and a closed-door process for initial fact finding to keep witnesses from coordinating testimony, but we shouldn't have confidence in the process as a public until we start having public hearings.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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this is uncharted territory. a precedent
you have to live with this when the roles are reversed. remember that.
I'm not married to either side so I will be just fine. All I'm arguing is the legal basis for what is going on right now.
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