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re: OT Runners: Advice needed

Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by PaperPaintball92
Fly Navy
Member since Aug 2010
5297 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:38 pm to
Go on longer runs. Longer distance and time.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27818 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:38 pm to
good for you. i lost 70 lbs 7 years ago and have kept it off.

i started where you were. best thing i ever did was switching things up. hired a very good trainer and he explained to me the different zones your heart rates goes into and the importance of them.

i do a different run each time i run. Interval is best for burning fat. like others have said. 30/45/60 second sprints.

if you do a treadmill, do an incline or set it for random or hill.


Do a long run once a week to have a steady heart rate, but its really beneficial to mix it up and do intervals. Plus you dont get tired of the same thing each time.


Read this if you get time, i thought this was all BS but then i researched it and actually did it and i was in the best shape of my life(and lost the most weight and BF)

Heart Rate Zones for Running
Posted by DustyDinkleman
Here
Member since Feb 2012
18176 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 2:39 pm to
Keep it up!

Also remember, results take a while. Don't get discouraged after a few weeks even if you're not seeing much difference.

I used to run constantly between high school and college and loved it. Gained weight the last 3 or 4 years and I'm just now getting back into it.
Posted by ThatsAFactJack
East Coast
Member since Sep 2012
1548 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:06 pm to
Good for you. I am doing something similar. Weighed 208 on 1/1. Am now done to 192.

I started out walking for an hour. Then slowly I would run .25 miles walk .25, etc.

I am not at a point I can jog 5 miles/hr or if I do intervals, I can do 1 mile in 9 minutes then walk half a mile, then 1 mile in 9 minutes.

The first month was brutal.
Posted by kwalt1989
Life is great in the 318
Member since Oct 2014
789 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:11 pm to
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Posted by Burlee
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2006
7324 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

HIIT

Look at incorporating 60/120's into your run plan.

Warm up with a one mile run then do 60 seconds of sprints and 120 seconds of walking until you can flip that.

Try to do those intervals for 1-2 miles.



whatever you do NOT do this. You've only been running for 2 months. You need to build a base. Longer slower runs. If you really are running 6:30/7:00 pace, you need to slow down big time.
Posted by pigpickin
Member since Oct 2014
147 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

HIIT

Look at incorporating 60/120's into your run plan.

Warm up with a one mile run then do 60 seconds of sprints and 120 seconds of walking until you can flip that.

Try to do those intervals for 1-2 miles.


Curious how people keep up with these times without having to constantly glance down at a watch?
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8539 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:25 pm to
It is just a matter of time just keep running. Cut the carbonated drinks of you haven't already.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36744 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 3:49 pm to
Tons. Team Red White and Blue has Thursday group runs from corner bar in Youngsville. I think there is another day in Lafayette also. And there are some on Sunday but don't remember which bar

Facebook has some listed (if you're on fb).
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
8977 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

When I started, 2 miles took me 25 minutes. I'm down to 19/20 minutes.


This isn't that slow. Endurance is about pacing. When I was training for a marathon I found that I had some HR points that if I crossed above them that my workout for that day was pretty much done for. But if I kept my HR under those points I could run for as long as I want. So my advice, get a HR monitor and learn what your body is trying to tell you.



Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 4:36 pm to
Yeah, HIIT is going to get someone injured if they truly aren't up to it. Building a base is a big part of running. Long and slow at first, then add in more technical work.

I'm out of shape now, but when I'm good, I can run a half marathon, but have trouble keeping a 7 minute pace for a mile. It's certainly not an earth shattering speed.....I know I'm slow. But any person just getting into running has no need to be running anywhere near 7 minute miles.

If you have a gaming device, you need to track heart rate. First, run 30 minutes as hard as you can. Obviously be smart to do it as quickly as possible, but pace to finish. Take your average heart rate from the last 20 minutes (use your lap button). That is you lactate threshold heart rate. Your training runs shutdown be at 85 to 90 percent of the heart rate. Don't go above it. Even big time runners spend a lot of time in that zone. Over time, your speed will increase while the heart rate stays the same. As you run more, you can use HIIT to push your results further. But it's still only like 20-30% of your running.

I have had two nagging injuries since December. It's definitely not worth jumping in too fast. Star slow and build. I was used to running 6 miles any time I went out. Hadn't run in weeks and boom, Achilles tendinitis.
Posted by birdieman
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
1647 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 5:00 pm to
90% of the battle for someone overweight is just getting out there and getting moving. I wldnt care about pace at all if I were you. you aren't an all state ball player anymore, just an overweight guy trying to get in shape and be healthier. Last thing you want to do is get injured by exceeded your speed limit.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61855 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

Do a slower paced but longer run once a week.



Posted by shotcaller1
Member since Oct 2014
7501 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 6:55 pm to
I dropped about 80 back in the day. I mixed it up with long slow, (very slow) runs and "sets" of faster ones.

It keeps you from getting bored from doing the same thing every day or every time you work out
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

Hot yoga will help with your breathing and definitely help your running ability.



will you elaborate a bit on that (personal evidence, mainly) ... tia ...

to the op - as others have said, mix things up ...

and stretch a bit before and a more afterwards ... absofreakinlutely stretch ... do a 5 minute warmup of jjacks or something, then stretch for 5 minutes or so ... and stretch afterwards for 15 ... don't know how old you are, but you will notice a difference in 10 years if you don't stretch now ...
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62886 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:03 pm to
2 miles in 20 minutes is a 10:00 pace.
So how is your Garmin showing 6:30 pace? Looks like that is in km/min?

About the breathing, do you smoke?
Regardless, you just need to keep at it.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16245 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

I've started to learn that. I'm actually at the point where I look forward to my runs to push myself and to be alone on the road. I honestly never thought I would be at that point in life. Even when I was an all state basketball player in high school, I frickin hated just running. Now, I actually enjoy it. Thanks for all of the advice guys. I'll give it a shot.


This is an awesome subtle brag. Guys, he started an entire thread just to insert this fact.

OP you are a genius.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11257 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:33 pm to
Haha
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29009 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

Slow down. Seriously. Introduce some quicker intervals, but if you're running at a 7:00 pace, I'm not surprised your lungs are pissed at you


Agreed. That made more sense when he said that. I'm by no means in my best running shape compared to a lot but a sub 7, hell a sub 7:30 mile is booking it for a 225 lb. dude.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29009 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

Curious how people keep up with these times without having to constantly glance down at a watch


Garmin and TomTom watches have GPS that break down your run afterwards.

Just start a run on your watch, run, and stop it. It'll tell you average mile, each splits, fastest mile etc.
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