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U.S. Economy Has Been in a “Silent Depression” For 20 Years

Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:00 am
Posted by Hussss
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2016
7484 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:00 am
This video does an excellent job with the data and charts to back it up.

Year 2000 was as good as it gets for the majority of the population.

REAL wages haven’t increased since 1983.

LINK
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
52085 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:08 am to
No it hasn't.

But companies and CEOs have made more and refused to increase wages for the employees
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
69292 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:14 am to
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companies and CEOs have made more and refused to increase wages for the employees


They learned some new tricks during covid
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
71593 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:15 am to
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REAL wages haven’t increased since 1983


lol
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
29070 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:20 am to
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REAL wages haven’t increased since 1983.

they did under Trump in his first term, but all was lost and then some under Biden. People need to let the man cook and quit tasting before it's ready.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3584 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:48 am to
You think this is funny?
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7614 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:53 am to
The dollar is worth half of what it was in 1998. So for Gen X, just cut your 401K in half to get a sense of your worth as you knew growing up. It’s a helpful gut check for me
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 8:58 am to
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in 1998
1998 is up there on the Rushmore of years for us Xennials
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172489 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:05 am to
We’ve never recovered from the post-9/11 monetary and bureaucratic policies.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24858 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:07 am to
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We’ve never recovered from the post-9/11 monetary and bureaucratic policies.


The terrorists won. Fatal blow.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
7544 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:26 am to
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No it hasn't.

But companies and CEOs have made more and refused to increase wages for the employees


When you dont have a real economy(fake printed money) and you have massive overregulation and red tape that stifles competition...this happens
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
55702 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:58 am to
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We’ve never recovered from the post-9/11 monetary and bureaucratic policies.


Truth. Right as we were beginning to claw our way out when the GFC hit. From that point on, we have been trying to bail out a sinking boat, as if thinking that the problem is that we're sinking only because we haven't been bailing fast enough.

Risk rises as Debt-to-GDP gets into the 116%-130% range. Taking intragovernmental debt into account (because it's not like those agencies are just going to take hits to their bottom lines), we're somewhere around 121%-124% right now.

We've been over 100% since Q4 2015 and over 115% since Q1 2020.

For reference purposes, the "sweet spot" is generally considered to be ~60%.

All of that debt compounds even though it's being serviced and that compounding doesn't stop until there's a balanced budget (which includes debt servicing and that's already a very large chunk of tax revenues).
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
28493 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:10 am to
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The terrorists won. Fatal blow.


Looking back almost 25 years from the event, it's pretty incredible how effective those attacks were against the US, and the world as a whole, too. We are still recovering from the attack, and I don't know if we ever will.

frick those dudes.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11854 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:15 am to
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The terrorists won. Fatal blow.


Absolutely! I have said this 1000 times. Bin Ladin achieved everything he ever wanted and more. I don't think it came exactly the way he thought it would, but it worked
Posted by tigeralum06
Member since Oct 2007
2850 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:34 am to
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Bin Ladin


You misspelled Israel.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
55702 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:54 am to
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You misspelled Israel.


You misspelled CIA.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24738 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:00 am to
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REAL wages haven’t increased since 1983.



Maybe a stupid question...why do real wages need to increase? I understand not wanting real wages to decrease but what if they just hold serve year after year and the standard of living that those real wages are affording continues to improve....
Posted by TigerSaintInDallas
Member since Sep 2012
702 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:23 pm to
The price of mostly everything goes up every year. Therefore, if real wages aren’t also simultaneously increasing, we are able to buy less every year.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131503 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 1:03 pm to
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The price of mostly everything goes up every year. Therefore, if real wages aren’t also simultaneously increasing, we are able to buy less every year.
Oh boy.

The price of mostly everything goes up every year. That's called inflation. Real wages are inflation adjusted measurements.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131503 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 1:12 pm to
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REAL wages haven’t increased since 1983.
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