re: American cities making a come back

The 3 big C’s in Ohio have all made leaps and bounds to improve the cities.

Columbus with the most growth.

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Metro area has always been strong. The City is thriving right now. I thought the whole entertainment scene downtown would level off after Covid but new stuff is popping up left and right. They are building apartments and condos like crazy, and they seem to filling them up.

I know someone will mention crime, but the majority of it happens in places most normal people will not find themselves.

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You are right about a lot of this, but define "thriving." Are there a lot of great restaurants and bars downtown? Sure. But what about the jobs? Many have left the city limits and won't be coming back. What happens when Regions gets sold? And don't get me started on the city's leadership. I agree with you in part on crime, but it's a bigger deal than you are making it out to be. Those "places" you talk about are part of the city.

For every city making a comeback, you'll find civil rights activists complaining about it. The ole " YT making it too expensive for fill in the blank" argument.

YT is their code for us, in case you haven't been on the twitterz

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, Pittsburgh,

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I didn't go there until about 10-12 years ago to see a Cubs/Pirates series but really enjoyed it and went again a few year later. So not sure if was on the mat and came back but I certainly enjoyed it then.

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Detroit, Pittsburgh, Birmingham and Cleveland

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Downtown Cleveland is actually going through some nice changes, but the rest of the city is still bleeding population and is the most violent city in Ohio...even the suburbs are bleeding population, so i wouldn't put Cleveland close to this discussion yet.

Cleveland City Population:

1950 - 914,808
1960 - 876,050
1970 - 750,903
1980 - 573,822
1990 - 505,616
2000 - 478,403
2010 - 396,815
2020 - 372,624
2024 est - 351,397

Population Loss = 563,411

Cleveland Metropolitan Population:

1950 - 1,759,431
1960 - 2,220,050
1970 - 2,419,274
1980 - 2,277,949
1990 - 2,205,069
2000 - 2,202,871
2010 - 2,185,737
2020 - 2,178,825

Population Loss = 240,449

Until population loss stops in both the city proper and the suburbs, i dont know how a city can be considered "making a comeback". Make no mistake, i am rooting for Cleveland as it has a HUGE amenity going for it in the Lake Erie lakefront, but its going to take half a century to turn Cleveland completely around. That's just the truth...

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NOLA has improved a decent bit since COVID.

That was absolutely rock bottom as far as I’m concerned.

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Rock bottom was the Louisiana Pizza Kitchen murders in the 90s. New Orleans had over 450 murders in one year. Brought the best civil servant New Orleans has ever had in Richard Pennington.

This year SO FAR, the trend in murder is down, but it ramps up every summer.

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How about America itself make a comeback, amirite?

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Zac Brown supporting the troops and calling out the media

Great show last weekend.

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2010 - 296,945
2020 - 309,513

That is significant for Cincinnati!!

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As a St Louis city resident, I'd be ecstatic with 13,000 more people living in the city over a decade. Any sort of positive number would be worth celebrating.

The city has been losing population for a long time, like every rsut belt city. The metro area had been staying relatively stable but did drop recently. Which is concerning.

There are positive things happening. We managed to get rid of a Soros-backed prosecutor. We will have the chance to elect a less-bad rep to get rid of Cori Bush. But overall, there is a general lack of leadership in the city and a lack of any regional vision.

Every elected official in every municipality around here is only out for themselves, not even trying to better their specific muni.

Problem is that it only takes a few years of bad policy to kill any such momentum.

NYC and Oakland both made resurgences only to start declining again due to crime after a bunch of leadership issues.