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re: This proposed district map of Louisiana is absolutely nuts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:06 am to crewdepoo
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:06 am to crewdepoo
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Just give inner BR and inner Nola a district
Population isn’t high enough for each to get their own districts and it isn’t really feasible to get a contiguous district covering both.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:22 am to teke184
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opulation isn’t high enough for each to get their own districts and it isn’t really feasible to get a contiguous district covering both.
Yep. At least not without including either Jefferson, the northshore, or AP/LP in one or the other. Which, of course, we cannot do because the courts have decided that black people can only be constitutionally represented by black people.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:22 am to RougeDawg
quote:Only one is, and it's pretty bad.
Culturally, that map ain't bad.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:26 am to member12
Does anyone remember the Cleo Fields 'Lightening Bolt' district?
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:31 am to RougeDawg
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Culturally, that map ain't bad.
I don’t know what that means. How do you define culturally and how to you define “ain’t that bad”?
What makes a district map good or bad? Serious question.
The goal of these districts is racist on multiple fronts.
1) It assumes that making the Congress include more black representatives is a higher priority and a greater good than simply getting the best representatives, however you define “best”.
2) It assumes that black voters can only best be represented by a black person.
3) It assumes that a black candidate would never be elected in a majority white district.
4) It assumes that Louisiana and other southern states remain more racist than northern and western states.
5) It still infantilizes black people by assuming the above, and that a black candidate can’t win in a majority white district.
6) It forces very different geographic areas with divergent interests into the same voting district by assuming that all blacks everywhere want the same thing. Do rural blacks in the Marksville area support the same policies as urban blacks in the Gus Young area of Baton Rouge?
7) It prioritizes these racist goals over a common sense districting map in which citizens will be more likely to know who their representatives are.
8) It’s actually a giant racist RUSE perpetrated by the Democrat Party to tap the power of the black vote in their favor. The minute black districts start voting Republican, these gerrymandered districts would no longer be a priority. “Bu, bu, but, I thought it was all for the poor oppressed black people??? Whoever they choose! Right?”
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:37 am to Herooftheday
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So which of those colors are the areas to avoid?
Ummmm pink seems to encompass a certain demographic
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:37 am to member12
They are institutionalizing racism.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:39 am to Tiger Prawn
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Bogalusa and Bawcomville being in the same district is fricking dumb. Same for Shreveport and BR
There is (or was) a state senate seat that went from southern Ouachita Parish down to at least St. Francisville.
Looks like it is District 32.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 11:48 am
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:46 am to Jimbeaux
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2) It assumes that black voters can only best be represented by a black person.
Candidate of choice does not always mean the candidate would be black.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:49 am to c on z
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Candidate of choice does not always mean the candidate would be black.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:51 am to c on z
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2) It assumes that black voters can only best be represented by a black person.
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Candidate of choice does not always mean the candidate would be black.
Is Biden going to be your example?
I mean, it’s not impossible, but even you would have to consider anyone other than a black person winning to be EXTREMELY unlikely.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:57 am to BigJim
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They should really just go with Mike Johnson's idea and refuse to change until all legal avenues have been exhausted
The fear is that next month Dick redaws the map, it takes effect, and won't get thrown out / reversed in time for the 2024 election. And that map Dick puts out will be way worse.
This is the very definition of "no good options so choose the lease bad one"
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:59 am to c on z
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Candidate of choice does not always mean the candidate would be black.
Sure. I guess an illegal would work as well.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:23 pm to Tiger Prawn
quote:Why, in the digital age, do areas need to be contiguous to form a district? Hell - they could put Bogalusa, parts of Orleans, and St. Landry in the same "virtual district" and simply move in armored vehicles and portable watch towers there.
Bogalusa and Bawcomville being in the same district is fricking dumb. Same for Shreveport and BR
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:28 pm to member12
This map is 100% about Jeff Landry taking out Garrett Graves.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:38 pm to BigJim
quote:This!
They should really just go with Mike Johnson's idea and refuse to change until all legal avenues have been exhausted.
Or draw the maps with two “minority majority” districts that are 51% black and dare the court to challenge it.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:42 pm to Tiger Prawn
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Bogalusa and Bawcomville being in the same district is fricking dumb.
I'm ruling this unconstitutional right now.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:48 pm to Slippy
This map is 100% about Jeff Landry taking out Garrett Graves.
This. It always goes back to Team Jindal vs Team Vitter. Back in 2010, Jindal was involved in redistricting and eliminated Landry’s congressional district. This forced Landry to run against an entrenched Lafayette political family backed by Jindal. Landry was backed by Vitter. Team Jindal won. Charles Boustany would eventually be brought down by Cajun John Wayne (also backed by Vitter) while Landry won the AG job. Graves was a Jindal disciple, picked by Bobby to run CPRA, and then backed for his Congressional run.
The branches of the state party which backed David Vitter or Bobby Jindal back in the day are STILL fighting each other tooth and nail.
This. It always goes back to Team Jindal vs Team Vitter. Back in 2010, Jindal was involved in redistricting and eliminated Landry’s congressional district. This forced Landry to run against an entrenched Lafayette political family backed by Jindal. Landry was backed by Vitter. Team Jindal won. Charles Boustany would eventually be brought down by Cajun John Wayne (also backed by Vitter) while Landry won the AG job. Graves was a Jindal disciple, picked by Bobby to run CPRA, and then backed for his Congressional run.
The branches of the state party which backed David Vitter or Bobby Jindal back in the day are STILL fighting each other tooth and nail.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:55 pm to kingbob
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Charles Boustany would eventually be brought down by Cajun John Wayne
Naw dog. In 2016, he ran for Senate against Kennedy and lost.
The only reason Higgins was able to win is because Boustany gave up that seat.
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